And Seattle is like the best place in the country to be trans. I wish I were back there.

I like Maddow, but she really was better on the radio. O’Donnell is very hit and miss for me, but he’s been great lately. Hayes is probably my favorite.

Or the reason that fewer Democrats showed up could be because they were cut from the voting rolls (WI) or the requirements for voting were changed specifically to keep blacks from showing up (NC).

I got his new album last week, and immediately thought — please don’t let this be like Bowie, where he’s saying goodbye.

It means that he already had an established critique of immigration that included trying to prevent people from coming in and lowering wages, so that when the subject came up, he could talk about it seamlessly, without making his audience feel like he was just blowing smoke up their ass.

Don’t you get tired of cityfolk telling you how people in the country think. I know I do.

He currently represents a state that is rural and white. He actually knows how to campaign there.

The main problem was new laws passed right after the Supreme Court struck down the Voting Rights Act. Courts were starting to strike those down, but left them in place for this election because it happened so close to the election. This was the first election since then.

But outperformed HRC by double digits.

I live in rural, red MI, and I know several real life Trump voters who told me they would rather have voted for Bernie.

Which states would he have lost that Hillary won?

Oh, absolutely blame this ELECTION on WHITE women. We own it, and it is totally on the heads of WHITE WOMEN.

This is the best critique I’ve seen anywhere. I think you nailed it.

Women have *always* been the most vicious critics of other women.

Sanders would have won Michigan and Wisconsin. Pennsylvania and Ohio would at least have been closer. I can’t think of any states she won that Sanders would have lost.

In 2000, I was living in a safely blue state (WA) and believed that if I voted for Nader that that would signal my displeasure with the centrist corporate candidate the Dems nominated, and they would get the message.

Given that I live in one of those regions...yes, yes I do.

Honestly, it feels exactly like 2004 did.

You’re right about working hard and looking forward, but you also have to be sure to listen to the Trump voters so that you learn the right lessons. This was as much about rural white folk feeling ignored as anything else. The racism and misogyny were secondary effects, not the primary causes.

I think it’s possible. Bernie doesn’t *look* like an other, and he doesn’t channel the elitist condescension that sets a lot of people off.