I mean, yes, probably. Men have been lauded for centuries for being able to “land” attractive younger women. It’s only relatively recently that some people have realized that women are also humans and have their own thoughts and feelings about the men in their lives.

Just here to say that your discourse with ArcticSix has been most enlightening and i thank you, too.

It’s good to hear that there are reasons for optimism and ways to disagree. I wasn’t trying to say you’re wrong so much as give the perspective that I’ve been discussing with other lawyers. If I learned anything from reading tons of case law for this course, it’s that I’m glad I’m not a lawyer. As a sociologist with…

Same here - it’s uncomfortable that Roe was decided on, as you describe them,”badly reasoned” grounds, yet the outcome was (in my opinion) a good one. I wonder how exactly the arguments that will be presented by the Alabama, Georgia, or other legal teams will be presented, and whether those on the Court will be okay…

Your point is so hard for people to understand (especially since you can’t point to the right to privacy in one place in the constitution). I’ve also gotten into arguments with people about how badly reasoned I think the Roe decision was (then), yet I support it (now) and agree with the outcome itself (legal abortion) …

Roe was decided on a tenuous constitutional right to privacy. Obergefell was decided on much stronger equal protection grounds. It doesn’t follow that the demise of Roe means the demise of Obergefell—they are totally different, unconnected legal theories. It’s not the same logic at all.

This is 100% true, and is a position that organizations are pushing DA’s to take around the country—not sure what is so astounding about this concept.

These comments are extremely harsh. She did a shitty and dangerous thing, but there are several points to consider here, not least of which is that she is a minor. Why wasn’t this tried in family court? As Americans, why do we so readily accept minors being tried as adults? What sentence would you rather her serve?…

I’m sorry the person you were when you were younger embarrasses you so much now, but that does not make this album bad, it makes your perspective shallow.

Girl. No. This is a bad take and you should feel bad about it.

Eagerly awaiting the mental gymnastics it will take for someone to insist this makes her horrible person.

Lawyer here - yep! 

Absolutely - I don’t think he was given constitutional sufficient defense - a key, potentially exonerating witness, isn’t used? Yeah that’s a clear deficit - I’d argue that it’s sufficient enough to get him a new trial, but I’m not an appellate judge.  

I’m a couple of days late to this but I gasped as I read it. Atty-client privilege is such a sacred tenet, I just can’t believe he would do this. This guy used to be THE defense attorney to hire in Chicago and I’m so incredibly disappointed/enraged.  Also, way to take the entire profession down with you, Ed.  Thanks a…

I haven’t taken Ethics yet, and even I was like “No, he for sure can’t do that.” - a 2L

It absolutely boggles the mind, doesn’t it?!

He could still face some sort of financial punishment. His estate could be left holding the bill. Not being actively barred doesn’t end those duties. Neither does being dead. 

Seriously! Attorney-client privilege never expires, even if one of the parties does. Without a court order compelling him to flap his jaw, this guy should have stayed quiet. 

I remember listening to the show, as so many of us did, and thinking that he totally got railroaded. And, also, that he did it. It’s an odd feeling, holding both thoughts in one’s head. 

This.