You’re giving them too much credit. It’s not “anyone”. It’s “anyone that you explicitly give authorized access to.”

Yeah, there’s already a lot of people that stick to used cars because they’re dumber and easier to maintain. I think if the OEM’s get their way, they’re going to wind-up shooting themselves in the dick, repeatedly.

I mean, maybe someone *could* both steal your OBD data *and* sexually assault you in an empty parking garage. Are these things connected? Maybe, maybe not. But they could both happen. And then insert a “We’re just asking questions here.”

Well, the site’s not called “Newcarnik...”

This comment makes me happy I did not pursue the professional mechanic route I briefly considered, and it makes me love my early-70s British car all the more... the only “special tool” it needs is carb balancer.

All I have to say is this popped up for me, even with ad blocker. Is it fucking 1999 again? Email newsletter? Are you kidding? 

Seriously, I would expect indie shops to be far more accountable. Dealers either have a monopoly while the car is under warranty, or its employees are all off in some warehouse behind closed doors. The owner at my local shop is front and center and it’s his reputation (and loss of future business) if something gets…

MA Resident here, will be voting “YES” to this question. Keeping in mind, we’re the same state who had a very contentious ballot question a few years back about whether or not to allow more stores to sell alcohol. The anti side of things was basically representing that this would enable and “generate” more alcoholism.

either that or 20 years will become the new 10 years.

That’s honestly all this is doing. It’s to insure a consumer to dealer direct repair pipeline and eliminate all other options. And it’ll coincide with repair costs going up. That’s the problem with all this. 

They’re not lies, so much as insanely far-fetched hypotheticals. I mean, maybe someone *could* both steal your OBD data *and* sexually assault you in an empty parking garage. Are these things connected? Maybe, maybe not. But they could both happen. And then insert a “We’re just asking questions here.”

Hey, ho, look at Mr. Moneybags over here affording 10 year old cars. Hey there “no rust”, take yer shiny new car over to the other side of town with all your rich friends without blown suspensions.

if that personal data can be accessed via CANbus protocols

We want to be able to fix them in 10 years when we do actually buy them.

I think we now have all of the fiercest right-to-repair opponents mentioned in the comments. Auto manufacturers, farm equipment manufacturers (specifically, though, John Deere, screw those people), and Apple.

I’ve seen enough videos of guys who work in the service departments of dealerships messing around with customer’s vehicles. To think that they would somehow be more trustworthy with this data than an independent shop is a laughable thought.

Trying to move toward the John Deere stance (you may own the car but not the software).

I live in Kansas, around a lot of farmers that spend all day bitching that John Deere forces you to go to them to repair their farm equipment. Its a horrible act. And of course because of that, John Deere’s repair prices are sky high compared to their competition. I feel sorry for them

Had one too many cold b’ers one night an’ wrapped hisself around a telephone pole...

Never did win no checkered flags but he never did come in last