To the contrary, that many miles is a GOOD thing on a nearly 40 year old car. That means it likely didn’t spend long periods sitting and someone did everything necessary to keep it running.

Counterpoint: The maintenance required to get an Alfa to the moon means that pretty much any wear item has been replaced at least once. Someone kept this running.  An ‘87 Alfa with 230k miles is no more likely to be a ticking time bomb of deferred maintenance than one with half as many miles.

The Pontiac Fiero:

Posting the AMC Eagle Sport Wagon for awareness.

Volvo 850R. I came sooo close to buying one. MSRP was $38K and my FIL got them all the way down to $29,911. Wife put the kabosh on it because it was to be her DD. I mean, look at this.

Wrong Mercedes Wagon IMO. the ol’ 300TD was industructible, available with a manual, and came with matching hub caps. Just look at this baby blue one.

V70R of course! More specifically the second generation. 300hp, AWD, and a 6-speed actually available in the US this time!

My time to shine. There’s a few.

I do have range anxiety so a pure EV is basically out of the question for me unless I use it for around town. One with a big battery pack for traveling would be nice, but once I get off I-95 in SC, charging areas are not plentiful, especially if I bought a Rivian or something. In the Myrtle Beach area, Level 2 or…

This. The argument always seems to get boiled down to “range anxiety” and I’m not sure that’s the right term. I would say mental load is what drive a lot of people away from EVs right now—the idea that having an EV adds another layer of mental preparation devoted to finding chargers when it comes to driving. Right now…

This isnt really a great sales pitch for electric.

While I agree with you in principle, the problem with present-day conservatism is that the “lunatic fringe” is no longer the fringe - they’re firmly in the driver’s seat of the conservative movement. That’s not to say there aren’t reasonable rational people who still view themselves as conservatives, but until they…

I was wondering when I’d get to the Ship of Theseus comment.  I wasn’t disappointed.  It came refreshingly soon.

Oh, you mean drivers will have to help pay for the roads their overweight EV is destroying?
Seems perfectly reasonable as everyone driving ICEs pays for roads via gas tax.

Let’s be real here, if $200/year breaks you from driving an EV, you couldn’t afford it anyway.

Yep. The electrical architecture is Volvo. The 4.3- and 4.7-liter V8 engines are heavily modified, hand-built Jaguar ones. And a lot of the parts under the hood are corporate FoMoCo components.

He said reliable.

Get yourself what’s probably the prettiest car to ever have a V8, the last gen Aston Martin Vantage.

I was going to be boring and suggest a e class coupe but did a quick search and used lexus lc500’s are creeping into the 60s and that would be what i would suggest!

Agreed — this is something that’s non-consensual for people not attending. What gives them the right to endanger everyone like this? We can have air shows but they need to not be in densely populated areas.

The one trend that needs to stop is the EV push based on battery technology that results in a use case that isn’t a 1:1 to an ICE equivalent vehicle. The heft, and relative slowness of charging a massive EV battery are counter to our expectations of a vehicle. In a best case scenario, an EV is a compromise of time…