The girl that cuts my hair said her family had to cancel thanksgiving because her half her family voted one way and half voted the other. It’s frustrating. Can you imagine a productive conversation where one person says “Well I heard that 99% of the syrian refugees were 18 year old males” and the other person said…

I see what you’re saying but I think on both sides, the entire group is being accused by the behavior of minority of bad apples.

Sure! I guess, bookmark this thread and come back to it.

That is not even what I was saying but if that’s all you took from it, then that is a perfect example of what I’ve been talking about.

If he can do just 1 thing that everyone can agree on, I’ll be happy.

I don’t know man. That’s the problem. Even in this thread, only like half of us are being rational and trying to listen to each other. I can only hope that at some point the anger on both sides moderates a bit. Or maybe Trump manages to get something done that everyone says “Oh, that’s not so bad.”

Agreed. I can’t help but wonder if we’re going to bounce between increasingly far left and far right candidates for a few decades.

I’m not crying about the Christians, I could not care less. I’m not the least bit religious. And it’s not that I think refusing them is not a big deal, I just think that there are ways to deal with it that don’t use bully tactics.

Have a conversation with and try to understand differeing viewpoints. Hopefully people would listen to the alternatives and perhaps gain a new understanding. Maybe they’d come away still feeling the same way, maybe they’d. Anything OTHER than name calling and shouting and being closed minded towards each other.

LOL. So they needed money to pay for a perfectly reasonable idea of a backup on foreign soil (why they don’t have it now is ludicrous). I guess using Trump as an excuse is as good any. Wonder what excuse they would have used if Hillary would have won?

Well, I guess if it’s a pathetic argument, in six months or a year it will be proven wrong.

Yes, discrimination is illegal. I don’t disagree with that. I simply felt that there are different ways to handle bringing people over to the good side.

See, you just made an assumption about me when you don’t even know me. All I’m doing is trying to have a conversation on the internet with people. One where I don’t get angry and call people names. One where I try to understand some other viewpoints. You have no idea what MY orientation is or the kind of people I…

I care about the overall pattern, not just this one thing. The pattern that says anything that’s against the liberal value system should be shamed and mocked or sued out of existence. Don’t get me wrong, I know the conservative side isn’t any better. The fact that NEITHER side will even attempt to sit down and have…

Pfft, I’ve said all I need to anyway :-)

Good point. I suspect it’s the fact that he’s been everything BUT PC that people just assumed he was anti-PC.

Understood. It is fun to say. He looks pretty relaxed now that he just goes to baseball games and paints. He’s either on good meds or has totally forgotten those 8 years because I doubt I could function after that hell.

In America, you’re supposed to be allowed to say whatever you want. The thing is though, there are two or three aproaches to take to your statement.

That’s fine with me as long as you’re consistent.

LOL. Maybe you need to start a new account and be nicer :-)