I have updated my 2011 ford sync system at home. They use your phone as a modem for the older sync. my ford touch on our 2015 lincoln has not been updated yet but I didn’t check.

Not funny at all... 10 minutes of my life wasted-CHECK!

Maybe so I’m not sure but it is the suspension that has to be rated for a load weight.

Check fuelly and they actually average 19-22 with AWD.

Completely agree. Wife and I bought a 2015 Navigator Long version new after shopping around for months. The gas mileage was so similar to 7 seat crossovers we thought.... why even go there? We get more room and more towing capacity than even a volvo xc90 or mercedes gl one of my two top picks. These crossovers getting…

First Dodge, now GM, so is Ford next? I’m very curious because I own a 2011 Ford F250 diesel. It would be nice to know if it’s fancy expensive cow piss exhaust system is actually clean or not.

Yes. Yes they are insane.

Do they all change lanes with no blinker? Do they look down on you if your car is less efficient in typical Bay Area snob fashion? :) I hated the prius drivers in the bay area when that car came out... Like mobile ego inflaters.

Father has one and it is quick.... But torque steer is horrible on it.

The safety argument is false. If automakers use high strength steel varieties, the pillar thickness can be reduced. I’m afraid this is all for the style... Style over function.

Here! Give the dealer all the 3 year depreciation for nothing in return after lease is over! Great deal!

$20,000 down and then nothing to show for it after the lease is up? You never put that much down on a lease... bad idea. If you’re putting 20k down then buy it and own it for at least 10 years. If you’re gonna lease it put the bare minimum down.

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Not too shabby. My Navi has payload of 1,540 lbs, towing of 8,300 pounds, seats 8 adults, and total cargo space of 130 cu ft. Minivans are roomy we grew up with a 1990 Plymouth Voyager and the transmission failed three times on that bucket. Blown head gasket was the final straw so we never fixed it and donated.

My Father owned a 2004 Ford Expedition and 2009 Lincoln Navigator. Wife and I recently bought a 2015 Lincoln Navigator L. These body on frame SUVs have never left us stranded and in comparing to Chevy, I think the Fords hold up better over time with less rattles. There is just something special about these full sized…

1,800 pounds is rarely adequate compared to what the Ford Expedition and Chevy suburban can tow. My 2015 4x4 Navigator L tows 8,100.

RVs are fun. You should try it. That is all.

That can doesn't look like the trunk space of a suburban or Ford Expedition EL.

Dude you are right! I just read ford is bumping the 6.7 up to 930 pound Feet or so for 2017. Good find. Official numbers were released today

You’re just trolling. The 2015 powerstroke was upgraded with improved turbo and fuel system to increase 800 to 880 pound feet and 400 to 440 horsepower. Ford never upgrades their engines every 24 months, expect another bump in 1-2 years but not for 2017. The original ford designed powerstroke 6.7 debuted in the 2011…