Hi there! I'm glad to see you state your feelings in this way—because I have seen several of these kinds of conversation happen on this forum—and I am wondering if there is a way we can change the dynamic. Personally, the response that you are criticizing for being off-topic is similar to either 1) feelings I have…
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You seem nice and I genuinely get what you are saying. However, you absolutely don't face the same stereotypes that I as a black woman face. You are allowed to be a woman, to be seen as something worthy of protection, delicate, whatever. You do face sexism based on that and it totally fucking sucks. I'm not seen as…
So you'd prefer an echo chamber where no one commiserates or learns from each other's experiences? Get a tumblr.
Same, same, same! Superb role model! But oh, the whole family was just fantastic. I didn't have a 'big family' upbringing but watching the Huxtables? I so wanted one. I had the working parents scenario, but not the rough'n'tumble joy explored in this great show.
Get your DVR ready; tomorrow morning they are doing a marathon on TV Land.
http://www.channelguidemagblog.com/index.php/2014…
It's like you didn't read her comment at all. She actually said what you are criticizing her for not saying. The point of her saying she experiences sexism is to say that, since that is so awful, she can only think that experiencing racism on top of it must be awful. She isn't asking for sympathy, she's using it…
And now I have to go find Cosby episodes on the internet. They should really syndicate them again. I'd watch, and if I had kids I'd watch it with them.
Those comments can be super annoying, but I would take that versus the alternative(i.e., not empathizing at all), at least in this case this person was trying to empathize, no one can know what another person's struggle is, all we can do is empathize and be aware of the differences and keep in perspective.
Don't apologize or feel you have to qualify loving her. That should be universal. Elise Keaton of "Family Ties" was a very specific kind of white former hippie, and this little black girl loved her almost as much as I loved Clair. Also Julia Sugarbaker. Love who you love. I think that was the point. Cheers!
Great article and so true. Clair could be gentle when she needed to be but also assertive when she needed to be. A great role model. People often talk about Cosby Show in terms of how progressive it was when it came to race but neglect to mention gender. I see a lot of Clair in my mom who is both a career woman and…
Boo, Clay Aiken, boo. Inappropriate by whose standard? The same assholes who kept you in the closet.
I love that you include Roseanne in this mix. People don't put her in the same category with other great TV moms, but SHE was out there busting her ass in any demeaning job she could get, sometimes two at a time, to make ends meet. Living in a town that didn't offer their kids a lot of options, but clearly loved them…
One of my favorite rants:
I loved that show and its followup at 8:30 Family Ties. I so wish the writers had done a crossover with the Huxtables and Keatons with the parents drinking beer together at Cheers. Greatest fantasy episode ever.
I'm a white woman but I always loved watching their egalitarian family growing up. Both of my parents had working class jobs and split household/parenting duties. Watching the Huxtables was like watching the educated, upper-middle class version of my parents, which is what I wanted to be! Love taking a moment now to…
Clair Huxtable, Harriet Winslow, and Roseanne Connor raised me when my mother decided she had better things to do. I owe them a lot.
Clair Huxtable is why I'm a lawyer. I wanted to be her. I even moved to NYC. She was my childhood hero!
I'm a bit confused by the other response as well because I did not read your post as trying to derail.