Well, it wasn't as bad as it could have been, but I still thought it was cheap. But yeah, purity pledges are probably way too silly to be taken seriously.

Yeah. I actually thought they were going to get it on the last time she appeared (was that the time god episode?) and honestly would like for it to happen. Is that necessarily a dumb thing to want?

I agree that Susie was a misstep.

Yeah, that's where the real issue was tonight. "You don't like the person you were in the past? But back then, you were interesting! As a sexual object! Now let's fuck!"

Ellen, Jo (sometimes), Lilith, Ruby, Bela, Anna, Meg, Charlie, Naomi and The Sheriff all seem like proactive characters to me. Yes, some of those are villains, but the reactive thing is applied more for one-episode characters as far as I remember.

I didn't like the 'lol look at the church freaks' angle and everything was pretty predictable, but Hestia's villain speech at the end was fun and we got Sheriff Jody, who's the best. The 'what if something's wrong with me' thing that Sam did at the end is something that has been recycled too often before. (Also when…

C+. Jody has weird amounts of chemistry with Sam.

Back in The Vampire Diaries days, I loved Klaus because it seemed like he might in the end stop being the asshole he is and learn something. In this show, it seems increasingly impossible for that to happen because he's just in whiny asshole mode one hundred percent of the time. Everyone else comes off as better in…

This show is a lot like a fever dream. Things happen, but none of them feel like they have a consequence, because in the end it all goes back to the same fundamentals. Klaus and Rebekah, two of the central characters here, always come back to the same confrontation, where she tries to leave and make her own destiny…

The best thing about Stefan's PTSD problems is that Katherine had him recount every person he's ever killed in a chronological order and it actually helped. That was dark in a great way.

It didn't even seem like that much of a retcon to me. Damon is over 100 years and there's no reason to think that we covered everything interesting that happened to him so far.

Well, they didn't really show anything, did they. They were more flashes than flashbacks. If we get a full story, we get it the next episode.

I don't mind Caroline hating Damon, after all he did magically roofie her in season 1 repeatedly. It would be horrible for them to be friends.

They were drawing the parallels between Stefan and Damon pretty heavily in the rest of the episode anyway, like both saying something along the lines of 'I'd prefer being elsewhere getting drunk' to the person who one of the doppelgangers asked them to interrogate.

Possibly his memory of this was supressed by means of Science and/or Augustine vampire being magical and he was just left with a memory of scientists doing experiments and being dicks.

A- . So much stuff was happening and so much of it was great.

Yeah, they probably wouldn't do that, but John was horrible enoufh this episode for me to almost believe that..

I don't think it has explicitly been stated that each season lasts a year. There are two year long pauses I remember (Sam in Lucifer's cage and Dean in Purgatory) and the time Dean spent in hell (which was shorter, I think?), but maybe some of the actual seasons lasted less than that to compensate and not have this…

I got a feeling that the marks on Dean's arms in this episode actually were from John and not a werewolf.

Yeah, them confusing memories and having issues with combining the two personalities would have been an interesting thing to do. On the other hand, I'm seriously glad they *didn't* do the thing with fairytale characters not understanding technology, since that would just be annoying to watch regularly (also I'm not…