I never blamed the women for getting naked. Please point to a part of my comments that said “women shouldn’t wear their sexuality on their sleeve.” I’m pointing out the reality of the situation: the more women who choose that path because they really own it or because they feel they have to, make it that much harder…

This. I love Amber Rose, but I don’t really like bringing classism in like Kim Kardashian is in the same league as someone stripping to make ends meet. She was filthy rich before she got famous, and used a lot of that money to buy a body that isn’t attainable for anyone not either genetically or financially gifted.

I love this so much I screen-capped it. Yours and Bears’ comments are giving me life rn.

Not getting a job as an actress or singer because you do not use your sexuality in your art is a disadvantage. If it becomes expected that entertainers expose their bodies, then it puts other artists and entertainers who don’t at a disadvantage. Is that clearer?

Something being insulting and something being a valid criticism aren’t mutually exclusive. I’d figure that you’d be on board with that if you’re going to fling around what is or isn’t “stupid” for people to do.

That’s exactly what I said:

flawless argument

I don't think it's shaming. She was being blunt.

THIS. In the argument over whether KK qualifies as a feminist ally (or icon), most of what people say can ultimately place them in one of two camps: she’s a brilliant business woman or she’s an opportunistic slut. Both sides miss the point (the latter also being cruel and inappropriate). Everything you mentioned is so…

Oh I did not know that part of the story - yuck. It’s interesting because I feel really similarly about Caitlin Jenner - like, okay good that she transitioned and is bringing some visibility to the trans community. And that’s like literally all she’s done that is positive.

This whole family. Meh.

She was pointing out their hypocrisy.

“I don’t think she’s done anything beyond defend the means through which she makes a whole lotta money, and I am not gonna run around celebrating that like it’s some feminist victory.”

She has admitted many times she used to slut shame in the past and she is not proud of it. She said becoming a feminist is a pretty recent thing for her. I think she’s a good example about learning from her mistakes.

I don’t agree. Don’t date shit on sex workers when married to or related to a sex worker.

No. A normal celebrity is the kid in class who quietly raises their hand. Kim is that twat who wildly swings her arm in class and yells to be picked every time.

Ive heard Amber own it that in the past she slut shamed people, so I don’t think it’s hypocricy (is that what you meant? I’m having reading comp.issues today)

I donno about embracing KK as some feminist ally. I think it’s okay for women to (thoughtfully) critique her use of nudity and sexuality - her ‘brand’ and wealth are very dependent on promoting super narrow standards of beauty, which are tied with having tons of money, opulence, being sexually available to powerful…

I think that Pink is right in that we absolutely should be encouraging more women to be lauded for their brains and talents (especially in this instagram/selfie obsessed culture we’ve created), but I don’t think we need to do that by criticizing Kim Kardashian or Amber Rose whose choices are just as valid as anyone…

Kim Kardashian business model: LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME