There are plenty, but I can give you an easy one - leased my Stinger as there was a $7k lease rebate not offered for financing ownership.

For me it’s a way to always have a daily driver that is under warranty with the knowledge that if there is ever an issue with the car, the dealer will have to handle it. In addition, the way regulations are set up in my country, you can only borrow N times your yearly income, which a car loan counts towards, but a…

Back in 2002, I leased a brand new GTI 1.8T. The lease cost over 4 years + the buyout was only $400 more than the price they’d give me if I financed it. To get essentially an 8 year loan with the option to nope out halfway through seemed like a good idea, especially when I was 22 and only made $32K a year. I got a…

I don’t think Tesla is going anywhere. They may not be able to stay independent, but even then they’ll easily find a willing merger or partner. They’ve built up too much brand appeal. And remember, Tucker only built about 50 vehicles.

Too late to edit my own comment, but if Elon is the genius he seems to be, the long-term exit strategy for Tesla would licensing their battery tech (and continue to improve it) and giving up on the incredible intensive world of car manufacturing. I think these vehicles will go down in history as test beds, or proof of…

There will come a point where Tesla’s vertical integration will stop being an advantage (that’s a 100-year-old business strategy) but for now they’re killing it.

Not sure that’s the real problem, since size-wise these compete with the equally ‘spensive Model X.  It’s the Jaguar iPace that is overpriced vs the Model 3.

$25k more/ 45% less range. A true lose/lose.

Finally, a CEO with the cojones to admit it. Unfortunately its a 2 year head start that keeps constant- as Tesla keeps pushing R&D forward.

If you put weight into JD Power, Tesla is also years behind on product quality.

Donate to them cause you know the impeached orange turd wants to get rid of them.

Counterpoint... maybe we need to talk less about Elon Musk.

I think the complaints on the transmission are rooted in this assumption that a turbocharged Mazda3 hatchback would automatically be a reborn Mazdaspeed3. It’s kind of a silly assumption these days, since almost every single manufacturer sells turbocharged models that are not strictly performance cars.

The press release had pricing, I believe the mazda big pp was at like $34k CAD.

BUT THEN I WON’T HAVE “FUN” DRIVING THE 1.5 MILES TO THE GROCERY STORE!

I agree, there’s nothing fun about doing the 1-2 dance in traffic. 

Why do I have a strong suspicion that most of y’all saying “no stick, no sale!” would find another excuse not to buy it even if it did have a stick?

I mentioned this deep within another thread, but the Canadian site does have pricing up. There are three different editions of the car here (the sedan is slightly cheaper, but I only care about the hatch):

I love the mazda3 leather seats in the GT, not sure if lower trims and the clothe seats are the same. Also love the interior. AWD is a great addition for zoomzoom but also winter in Canada. I also like it’s not a VW and doesn’t look boyracer.

I still think the Mazda3 puts up “great numbers”, even if someone from another article ragged on that statement. What did people expect a Mazda3 to have? 300hp?? Sad about the manual, but AWD and the big torque makes this a great grocery getter and weekend runs.