Oh fuck off forever. The article is about a pinball machine at CPAC and brings up the GOP position on Israel. As if it’s relevant to that SPECIFIC criticism you bring up Biden and the Dems. That is the fucking definition of whataboutism. “What about the Dems?” is basically what you’re saying. And sure, that is worth…

They’re at CPAC so they’re talking about the platform AT CPAC. Leave that whataboutist shit out of it. If the fucking DNC shows up in Chicago with a pinball table about abortion and starts talking unequivocal support for Israel and then Kotaku writes about it, THEN we’ll talk.

I know it’s fairly lame as critique goes, but that is a basic bitch pinball table.

I’m saying that the specific criticisms of S4 are criticisms that can be levied against EVERY season of the show. How dire those problems actually are might change per season (for me, S2 was the height of ridiculous, 1 and 3 were quite good) but substantively they don’t seem all that unique. The primary unique element…

How do you define “relatively new”? Cuz people had questions about fucking Plato and Socrates being shitbags during their times. This is not at all new.

I don’t agree with the validity of the criticism. Within your own copy + paste bullshit you underline this. Did you even READ the shit you copy + pasted?

But that’s all completely consistent with the show as a whole. Every season of this ridiculous TV show is full of questionable policing and motivations, cringe dialogue, exposition, awkward tone mixing, etc. There’s nothing in this season that stands out as particularly egregious in the context of the IP. And I’m not…

I disagree about the hit/miss rate but this is 1000% a better take than anything Kotaku has thrown out about this. Love or hate Borderlands as an IP/tone, the movie is sticking pretty closely to it from what we’ve seen so far.

I don’t know how much more “respectful” Roth could have been than LITERALLY CONSULTING WITH RANDY PITCHFORD.

Yep. I don’t know what the issue is with people. I thought she got the vibe down pretty well.

I wonder why the movie meant to appeal to people outside the fandom of the IP cast actors with appeal outside the fandom of the IP?

You know what, Kotaku? I would love it if you just stopped talking about this movie now. Let this be the last article. Don’t review it. Ignore the thing entirely. The incredibly obvious hatred you all clearly feel towards mainline Borderlands (while obnoxiously scraping and bowing at the Tales spinoff) is just…

And maybe if it wasn’t such a clusterfuck of different writers, directors, actors, producers, mediums, schedules, etc. I could be on board. But it’s dozens of writers, dozens of directors, TV shows and movies both, the release schedules of one movie or show fuck with that of a half dozen others... What’s that? The…

Yep. And *some* folks really seem to think their strokes are superior. To be passive-aggressive about it.

I love the movie so maybe my view isn’t entirely reliable but Beetlejuice never struck me as THAT “weird” or “off-putting”.

Sure.

Yeah, isn’t that kinda the point of my complaint?

But nobody is ever going to fully agree on what “do it right” means and while that argument goes on the quality of the storytelling diminishes and diminishes.

How about we stop all the interconnected bullshit and let F4 stand alone? How about THAT, Disney/Marvel? Maybe all the synergy horseshit is part of the problem?

Like what you like. But “cheapens”? I don’t get this sentiment. It’s not “cheaper”, just different. And in a way you don’t like. That’s totally valid. “Cheapens” is such a needlessly pejorative way to put it.