I don’t know if it always does more harm than good. I don’t like for my sisters to have pics on their facebook where they are in bathing suits (more so when they were in college and more prone do using facebook for something other than puppy and baby pics). Not b/c I think they are somehow degrading themselves but b/c…

True. I should have also talked about how that the one girl was incredibly foolish to give her phone number out and meet the fan or that Ellohime should never have given so many details about his family. It wasn’t a well thought out post and perhaps I should have also gotten into how gaming already has a large problem…

Considering what a foul cesspool the internet has become the last 5 or so years I hate to say anyone should expect harassment for putting themselves out there or that degree of attacks will rise and fall depending on how/what they present but... well... Perhaps you just have a more positive view of the world than I…

Ehh... I think you didn’t read the whole thread and didn’t know I knew it was a meme. That’s fine. No big deal. Not trying to lecture all women either. Sorry you took it that way. I was commenting on one specific streamer. That’s it.

And what did Ellohime do to deserve getting stalked? Hmm? I notice you state that it’s the women’s fault they were stalked, but the guy?

? I am not talking about a “certain amount” of cleavage. I’m talking about her playing up sexuality on the internet and how curbing that could help keep her off creepsters radar in the future. I don’t think it was ok that she was harrased and I generally don’t care what a person is wearing but when said person is…

Nice straw man you got there. Not all men are bad all the time, Aristotle. If you put your life online and share everything with your viewers and not even bother to use some of your profits for a security system or protection you run the risk of bad shit happening. I don’t make the rules, that’s just the way it is. …

I’ve already mentioned that it’s a well known meme in one of these posts. I do not assume that her using it means she “wants to be stalked” (WTF?) and haven’t said anything like that in this discussion. But hey, I’m sure a well versed internet user such as yourself would never make the mistake of not reading the full…

I wouldn’t be so kind to call it boys will be boys. I’d call it scumbags gonna scumbag. I get that women have to hear the whole “cover up if you don’t want attention” spiel. I’m sure that it can be maddening as many times I’ve seen women told they were dressed too provocatively when they were wearing perfectly normal…

Nope. Never once said she deserves to be harassed. I have no idea how you could possibly think that. I apologize for not being more clear. I am saying that her choices in how she runs her stream make it more likely she will attract a certain kind of viewer who will be much more likely to objectify her.

What good comes from the vast majority of comments on Kotaku articles? I made a comment on how she could help herself avoid creepers and somehow it’s turned into a “Hey you man don’t tell us what to do” thing.  It’s not like I’m arguing she makes it harder for other female streamers to be taken seriously or anything…

At this point I’m convinced you are trolling, because NO ONE is that dense. No one said she was wrong, or that the stalking was justified, NOR was it implied. She did those thing for attention (sex sells) and you’re an idiot if you can’t see that. With that being said while she is TOTALLY within her right to do those…

No, it wouldn’t surprise me. I also never said it was 100% her (or any woman’s) fault. Not sure where you got that from. But it also wouldn’t surprised me if there were two main groups of women who get the brunt of online harassment. One group would be the women to play into the male sexual fantasy and the other would…

It’s one thing to victim blame, but it’s another thing to point out ACTUAL FACTS. While she has to right to wear what ever she wants in the privacy of her home (while streaming publicly...lol) and use widely recognized sexually suggestive font. I find it hard to believe she doesn’t know exactly whats she’s doing. SO…

Maybe. But if you go swimming in Australia with meat tied to your suit, you’re going to get bit. Just a fact of life. Victim blaming has nothing to do with it. This is the real world, not a fantasy land where everyone is cool and tolerant.

Who said you should roll over and accept it? I didn’t. I simply pointed out that in her specific instance she could cut down on the creeper fans by not overtly playing up her sexuality. She shouldn’t have to but we live in a messed up world and sadly it would probably help.

If you are on message boards a decent amount (especially ones heavily populated w/male users) I’d say you have a good chance at recognizing that font b/c it’s been used as a meme for several years now. I agree that to a rational person it doesn’t insiuate she’ll have sex w/her followers. Unfortunately when you…

Of course. Men can be incredibly gross and get away with it and it sucks. I work with all men and am often shocked at what they can say when there are no women around. I understand that a person who is dressed professionally or even in a burlap sack can also get unwanted attention.

That does not change the fact that…

I’m still laughing about that porn site font thing. (Perhaps not that recognizable...) and woman possibly watching porn doesn’t in any way insinuate she’ll have sex with random fans. That’s almost on the level of the CIA giving you secret messages through your dental fillings.

You can call it that if you want but if I leave my car running while I’m in a store and some asshole takes it, well... yea, it’s partly my fault. She’s clearly playing up her sexuality to drive her viewership. That’s fine. I don’t have a problem with it and more power to her for her hustle. She just needs to know that…