The program doesn't matter here. PA just got 60 days sobriety. Overcoming an addition is one of the hardest things a person can do. Making a nasty remark about that is an awful thing to do. It's like you don't get when thoughts shouldn't be expressed, and just figure if you think a thing you should go ahead and say a…

You just told someone who had a real achievement overcoming a really terrible problem "fuck your achievement". I don't care what you think of AA, that is legitimately one of the worst things I've seen a non-troll say to someone on this site.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

I did. I'm giving you further information as to why jumping into a discussion to insist that her wording was wrong because it was somehow impugning all men is problematic.

Yeah, I do. A woman existing and doing every day things while having a woman's body is not inherently suggestive unless you're a person to believes women's bodies are inherently suggestive.

What are you talking about? The link is not just a comic strip and explains many of the issues with the argument you've been making.

Thank you for being so awesome in this subthread.

Ha!

I missed that somehow! Super creepy.

A photo at the beach or just waking up is not suggestive.

You realize that being creepy has the effect of creeping out another human being, right? That's harm.

It's not harmless.

I didn't say no way short of perversion. I said that in this case there's no way short of entitlement that it happens. He can find it sexual all he wants but when he then expects something from her because of it, that's entitlement.

Here's why going all not all men is a problem, dude:

That doesn't make it okay for men to presume that someone turning them on owes them anything.

He has admitted to having sex with her when she was unable to consent. He and his buddy raped her.

I personally am not comfortable giving my money to rapists. However, I also know that we as human beings can only do so much when it comes to ethical choices and we all have different priorities about what that might be. Someone else might prioritize, say, keeping their money away from companies that abuse animals or…

It's all a rich tapestry of straight up abuse!

Awww, poor fucking Nate Parker. It must be AWFUL that people won't just forget that you fucking raped a woman. It's almost like rape is being recognized more widely as an unforgivable crime!

I wish I could remember. There was a donk! And I think a "wang", which we giggled over.