Was there such a candidate? I looked at the field and saw none.  Booker and Warren stirred me a tad, but everyone else agreed.  Bernie moves nothing in me - he seems like he has many of the deficits that I dislike in Trump. I just wonder if Americans are obsessed with a cheerleader dream. Maybe we’d be better off…

I demanded process with Kavanaugh.  I demand it here.  I would welcome a hearing for Biden.  I would hope that Biden would be removed if Biden faced evidence like Kavanaugh.

I don’t know. I think Nader was a reckless asshole for even running in 2004, and he conned a lot of idiots to make that mistake again. Nader was the margin of error in 2000.And Stein was in 2016. Since those aren’t actual votes meant to accomplish supporting a winning candidate, I can only infer those voters were…

*watches the already impeached President recommend injecting cleaning products into our bodies to protect from a disease he failed to contain and let kill over 50k Americans, as he’s skated by after sexually assaulting over ten women*

I think your idea doesn’t scale well. I’d rather live in a world where every allegation was investigated as criminal, honestly. We could figure some shit out at least.  Unless this is a backdrop plan to get Warren in, in which case, count me in.

And yet, it is. I agree with your propositions, but let’s say this current Siri’s iron remains. What should voters do with this information? Push Biden to withdraw? Refuse to vote for Biden? Or demand an investigation? What if the investigation does not happen? What if Biden agrees to an investigation and it…

Pretty sure we’re gonna hear that Biden was also a repeatedly bankrupt and failed real estate tycoon.  And his show on NBC was also embarrassing.

Part of the problem with our recent approach to politics is it forces a TON of heel dragging.  The ugly truth is that if Bernie won the nomination, he’d face the same resistance Biden is facing.

So... what does “believe” mean?  I think we might not disagree on substance so much as words.  Are you saying Mangum should have been believed but the players not held accountable?  I’m just confused by the implications of your statement.  Believe and investigate?  Yes, I say ok.  Believe and punish?  No.

Nice quote sniping.  Now explain the Duke LAX scandal.  Should Mike Nifong and Crystal Magnum have been believed?

HRC was a flawed candidate who ran a bad campaign. Gore too. But also GWB and Trump. The difference? The right can get its people to come together. The left seems to perpetually have a contingent of people too good for the candidate. Then we wonder why SCOTUS is fucking everyone over. It’s no mystery. We’re…

Losing a spirited contest!  Woo!  Tell that to the people of Syria and Iraq.

Cool. Let’s never win anything again! We can look cool while we do it tho!

Carter wasn’t inspiring btw.  He still mattered.  Same with LBJ.

Ok, I don’t disagree with that.  So who should be getting promoted?  Or is this just a roll of the dice and we’re gonna have to wait for another Obama?

My other lesson is the lesson of 2000, 2004, and 2016. Idealists ruined the country and the world with their petty whining. But for Nader voters, no Iraq war. But for BernieOrBust voters, no Trump.

That’s one lesson. Mine is Democrats are brilliant at making perfect the enemy of the good. Republicans don’t have this issue. Also, who even was that dream candidate this year?I’d say they didn’t exist.

Careful. Somehow these shit heels (like Lord Braxton) will snake that to President Ivanka.

Agree with everything you said. What I wish that the hangers-on (as opposed to actual victims’ advocates) understood is that pressing forward with all claims as though each and every allegation is true is playing with fire. There’s a giant group of people (largely men, but there are a shocking amount of women) who are…

What do you propose?  I’m lukewarm on Biden, but I refuse to accept Bernie at this stage.  I will happily accept his younger, smarter, and more competent female equivalent.