No, I do recognize that. Asian Americans are quite well off which is why you don’t see them constantly reminding people about their treatment in the past.

Well you have just spelled out the double standard I was talking about. You don’t want to celebrate Columbus because of the atrocities he committed but you are perfectly fine with celebrating the Indigenous People in spite of the atrocities they committed. You might counter with “well the Indigenous People should not…

You don’t get it, do you? Okay, here’s a quote by a famous Swedish politician that might help clear things up for you. Her attitude towards non-white vs white cultures is typical of what I am getting at:

Don’t move the goalposts. Your “central point” said nothing about holidays. However, such a holiday does indeed exist. It’s called Dia De La Raza in Mexico, and it implicitly celebrates those accomplishments.

It might shock you, but I actually agree (mostly — you’re forgetting about the Greeks and Romans).

I totally agree.

Sure, no prob.

That was certainly the case, but by 1800 China was hopelessly behind the West. Heck, they are still catching up today.

Following your logic we cannot celebrate the cultural accomplishments of the Mesoamerican Cultures because they committed the “systematic atrocity” of ripping out the hearts of children and keeping people in cages for dinner.

Not really. This is what I said:

You missed my point. I’m not talking about US holidays here. Rather, I am talking about the way in which non-white cultures are seen as being legitimate cultures that “need respect” while “white culture” is seen as a non-legitimate culture more worthy of ridicule than respect.

Not in every respect and not all of them, of course, but overall, yes.

I have heard this analogy made in the past, and it’s not a very good one. As I hope I made clear the main reason why we are celebrating Columbus is because he made the establishment of America possible in the first place, which is why it makes sense to celebrate him on a Federal Holiday. It is undeniable, however,…

I don’t consider counterfactuals. However, if you look at every single other non-Western civilization the answer is invariably “yes”. When a third-world country “modernizes” it is really “westernizing”. That’s quite a large sample set, don’t you think?

How can you possibly want to celebrate Indigenous People if they ripped out the hearts of children and kept people in cages for dinner? The point is that we wouldn’t be celebrating Columbus if the only thing he was famous for was killing and enslaving the Taíno. Whether you like it or not, this country would not exist…

No, I get that, and I don’t see a Conservative street renaming as a bad thing necessarily (especially since Native Americans were only 0.3% of the population back then).

What’s the measurement of “better?” Also, do you think that by giving so many sample stories that you had time to cum while copying and pasting makes it cool to speak about indigenous people like they are all the same?

Maybe because this country was originally founded by white people for white people and has a majority white population? Also, only 26% of Americans celebrate MLK Day. Since there are eight times as many African Americans as there are Native Americans, no more than 4% of Americans would probably celebrate the holiday,…

China developed just fine without the Europeans, so did Japan. For all we know, if Europeans hadn’t slaughtered the Natives, we might have flying cars, moon colonies, and sustainable, green farming by now.

You make it sound as if I implied that the conquest of the Americas was justified because “in the distant future what’s left of [Indigenous] kin would get to use super modern and convenient gadgets”. I said no such thing. Rather, I pointed out that the conquest led to horrible abuses of the Indigenous people and…