They didn’t put the 2.7L in vans.

I could handle driving one like this....

That really depends on the car.

The K-car would like a word....

Hmm. My friend’s LS2/6-speed begs to differ.

I know many people with aries and reliants still on the road. Many are in great shape with over 200k on the clock.

They’re comfortable. They’re damn near bullet-proof. They can be had in a Turbo. Parts are cheap. Repairs are easy. The turbo motor can easily make 300+hp.

I just wish they would stop the taillights at the top of the quarter, instead of extending them to the roof.

My wife’s is the most modded as I rarely drive it to abuse it. It’s a 95 Voyager Sport Wagon: M90 Supercharged 3.3L V6 w/ CAI, Full 2 1/2” exhaust. It’s lowered on Shadow Struts, an axle flip w/ the large sway bars, and a tower bar. It’s riding on 17” wheels with 225/45r17 tires. It goes like crazy, handles like a…

Do they really get better mileage or haul more?

Just saying.

I have 2 modded 90s Plymouth Voyagers. One can smoke most “muscle” cars.

I agree, minus the Prius part.

Problem isn’t the car per-say, it’s that the average Camry owner is anything but an enthusiast.

“enthusiast”=/= RWD.

His point was if you buy any appliance vehicle with the point of a suitable daily, but still have the aspiration to have or build an “enthusiast” vehicle, you can still be an enthusiast. If you buy an appliance vehicle and never strive for more, you are not.

Don’t use plain logic, the non-thinkers will get all up in arms.

The 6-8-9 speed transmissions are all junk in my experience.

Wuss.

Be better than an LSD locking and unlocking at 200mph.