Shouldn’t the conversation be both? Men, stop being shitty and pay attention when someone doesn’t seem interested/uncomfortable. Women, speak up/leave if you’re uninterested/feel uncomfortable.
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Nothing has totally erased this. The issue is this encounter, where the woman willingly gave Aziz not one but two blowjobs, was a bad date, and now a fringe group wants to lump this in with the #metoo movement. When she finally verbalized to him she was uncomfortable, he immediately called her a cab.
This absolutely needs to be talked about, and talked about in the context of this story. Of course his behavior was shitty. Guys, even the most well meaning of them, can be totally brain-dead jerks when they are horny. Some guys need to be straight told or else they don’t get it and will keep trying bad, shitty,…
She didn’t say no until the very end, though. At which point he stopped trying. And, yes, he was pressuring her into sex the whole time, not coercing her into sex. People seem to not realize that coercion involves force or threats.
This.
This is what gets to me about this story. He apologized and left her alone. What else does she want out of this? If there are multiple stories that show a pattern from Aziz, then let’s hear that. I’m sorry she had to go through this on a date but I also don’t know what recourse she wants from him.
She also expressed her feelings to him the next day. He heard her out and apologized. I see no reason to doubt the sincerity of his apology. His statement on the matter affirms that he took her words to heart.
I think that reinforces the point though — the conversation here should be a lot more nuanced and handled more deftly. I’m in my 30s now and I know how to say no, but pretty much throughout my 20s as I explored my sexuality I consistently ran into situations that I didn’t know how to handle. There’s a lot of pressure…
They’re too busy on their phone-machines trying to score the pot!
It’s made from Tide pods.
I do think it’s something of an age thing. Older women endured so much of this shit, and now some of them resent younger women who expect better. I experienced a twinge of this recently—I had my kids 10+ years ago and get very little maternity leave. It sucked, and I was very much in support of more generous laws and…
Dad?
Third wave is mostly considered to be “choice feminism”. Like “I choose my choice so it is ok, and it has nothing to do with the patriarchy if I do porn/get plastic surgery/pretend to be dumb to get men etc”.
“The majority of women in the workplace are not tender creatures and are largely adept at dealing with all varieties of uncomfortable or hostile situations,” Roiphe wrote in the New York Timesin 2011. “Show me a smart, competent young professional woman who is utterly derailed by a verbal unwanted sexual advance or…
It literally takes two minutes and the bag contains the mess.
Is that what it refers to? I think “fandom trash” in this context refers to the way these fandoms themselves become trash. The “play it now before everyone hates it” comment is what makes me think this. ie: “Play this good thing now before a bunch of toolbags play it and develop a toolbag following.”
Relating to teens like:
Doubt it’d be worth their time (or the money it costs for lawyers) to sue. Doesn’t seem like there was any malicious intent, just a lazy-ass marketing intern who’s not familiar with usage rights.
When reached by Kotaku, the Ford dealership said they didn’t know what we were talking about.