Agreed. Lincoln's problem is how well Ford has done in recent years putting out decent cars.

They're also selling pretty well.

This is the current generation's Phaeton. It's actually a great looking car, but too expensive for the brand.

Drove a V6 AWD model and came away unimpressed. Prefer the Subaru or Fusion for non-luxury AWD. That being said, the 200 isn't a bad drive, it's just....unimpressive. Looks like a jelly bean.

I agree re Lincoln. They're actually decent premium segment options if you don't want to go full luxury. I still don't like their exterior styling, particularly when their Ford counterparts look much better. I'd prefer the Fusion Titanium over its Lincoln counterpart, and the not-yet-released 2016 Explorer looks…

Good to know about turbos. Didn't know that.

I'd prefer a more Fusion-looking front end. Ford is finally starting to put out some very attractive cars. The new Fusion and the coming Explorer are very attractive cars for the non-luxury segment. I hope they stick to whatever design characteristics they used to design those two vehicles.

Yeah, the transmissions are my major concern with the Cherokees. Some heads rolled at Chrysler for the selection of the outsourced transmission. The 2014 models in particular had a lot of issues, but Chrysler put out updates to flash the software. I still don't trust the ZF 9HP transmission, and wouldn't buy a car…

Yeah, the transmissions are my major concern with the Cherokees. Some heads rolled at Chrysler for the selection of the outsourced transmission. The 2014 models in particular had a lot of issues, but Chrysler put out updates to flash the software. I still don't trust the ZF 9HP transmission, and wouldn't buy a car…

I would prefer the option of choosing the color set-up. Years ago Ford had something called MyColor on the Mustang where you could pick different colors for the guages. It never caught on, but I thought it was a nice customization option. I know some people aren't fans of the red.

I'd take the AWD Fusion Titanium on warranty over a non-warranty 6/7 year old CLS.

C and E class hold their value after the initial purchase, so the second buyer typically reaps the benefit of by-passing the initial depreciation. After you deduct the initial depreciation, the cars hold their value very well.

Where. Is. The. Performance. Fusion?

I never really understood the difference between Sync and MFT.

Ha. You drive a Dart.

Confused. When does this rollout?

Going completely outside the box, but given that you pulled a Stark and said "Winter is Coming":

Is it also true that Acura used the same transmission that is in the new Jeep Cherokees? Because Acura definitely had notice (at least some) of how horrible those transmissions were performing before production of the TLX.

No. Just a shifter. I don't mind the electronic parking brakes, but I prefer a shifter to this button layout that really doesn't save that much space. If you're going to go with the no-shifter option, go with the Merc E-Class set-up.....Acutally no. Just a shifter.

4Runner is like a Grand Cherokee but without the reliability issues.