I agree re Lincoln. They're actually decent premium segment options if you don't want to go full luxury. I still don't like their exterior styling, particularly when their Ford counterparts look much better. I'd prefer the Fusion Titanium over its Lincoln counterpart, and the not-yet-released 2016 Explorer looks…

Good to know about turbos. Didn't know that.

I'd prefer a more Fusion-looking front end. Ford is finally starting to put out some very attractive cars. The new Fusion and the coming Explorer are very attractive cars for the non-luxury segment. I hope they stick to whatever design characteristics they used to design those two vehicles.

Yeah, the transmissions are my major concern with the Cherokees. Some heads rolled at Chrysler for the selection of the outsourced transmission. The 2014 models in particular had a lot of issues, but Chrysler put out updates to flash the software. I still don't trust the ZF 9HP transmission, and wouldn't buy a car…

Yeah, the transmissions are my major concern with the Cherokees. Some heads rolled at Chrysler for the selection of the outsourced transmission. The 2014 models in particular had a lot of issues, but Chrysler put out updates to flash the software. I still don't trust the ZF 9HP transmission, and wouldn't buy a car…

I would prefer the option of choosing the color set-up. Years ago Ford had something called MyColor on the Mustang where you could pick different colors for the guages. It never caught on, but I thought it was a nice customization option. I know some people aren't fans of the red.

I'd take the AWD Fusion Titanium on warranty over a non-warranty 6/7 year old CLS.

C and E class hold their value after the initial purchase, so the second buyer typically reaps the benefit of by-passing the initial depreciation. After you deduct the initial depreciation, the cars hold their value very well.

Where. Is. The. Performance. Fusion?

I never really understood the difference between Sync and MFT.

Ha. You drive a Dart.

Confused. When does this rollout?

Going completely outside the box, but given that you pulled a Stark and said "Winter is Coming":

Is it also true that Acura used the same transmission that is in the new Jeep Cherokees? Because Acura definitely had notice (at least some) of how horrible those transmissions were performing before production of the TLX.

No. Just a shifter. I don't mind the electronic parking brakes, but I prefer a shifter to this button layout that really doesn't save that much space. If you're going to go with the no-shifter option, go with the Merc E-Class set-up.....Acutally no. Just a shifter.

4Runner is like a Grand Cherokee but without the reliability issues.

It may sub-par compared to the Fusion or Legacy, but it is still a peer car that most people will cross-shop in the AWD segment. The new version of the 200 isn't as bad as previous Chrysler products, even if it tends to look like a round jelly bean and lacks any sort of automotive excitement in its design. Reviews…

I didn't get the impression this post was about used cars under $20k. There are plenty of used cars and SUVs under $20k that would be fine options. I think the post was focused on new cars under $20k, meaning non-luxury vehicles.

I was pointing out that the Chrysler 200, which is a non-luxury car, is available in AWD. As are the Ford Fusion and Subaru Legacy. You can purchase all three midsized cars without having to go into the premium or luxury segment for new cars.

For the midsized segment, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy and Chrysler 200 are the only midsized sedans that I've been able to find that offer decent AWD systems outside of the premium or luxury brands.