I had a shine for Ray as well, and while Martin wasn't as compelling as some of the others he was always fun at least.

It depends, I think the apparent switch to a mini-arc format each having their own main villain and lasting however many episodes they need to might allow it to work just fine with a full season.

I want a few episodes about CITIZEN COLD with Wentworth Miller as the star for a bit next season if we are really Flashpointing for a while.

Almost certainly happening in LoT, might even lead to their own spin off show or something. Jay's actor has already said he's involved in Flash S3 at least too.

Legends problem was that it honestly had TOO many episodes, but when it was fun it was a LOT of fun. Next season they are apparently breaking things up into mini-arcs each with their own main villain which I think will be good for the show.

Also despite having a weaker main villain, I actually thought a lot of the supporting cast was better this season than the last, I already liked Cisco but I absolutely loved him this season, Iris became WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better, like she's one of my favorites now probably, Joe was already great, stayed great. Patty…

Also John Shipps has said in a few interviews that he will indeed be back as Jay Garrick in S3.

That would be a logical and cool way to bring Supergirl into the CWVerse proper, something happens while Barry is fixing the timeline that results in various Earths merging, a bit like how the New 52 started (where the Wildstorm Earth, some Vertigo Earths and the Main DC earth were all folded into one)

I think it'd be a bit longer, maybe 6 episodes to mid season, there's quite a lot of stuff to cover and why not mess around with the Alt-Timeline when you have the chance? Sure people might complain about those episodes being a waste of time once things are fixed but if their fun I really don't care. I want an entire…

I think the general concensus on most sites is that this season was good and still far and away the best of the DC shows but not as good as S1, I do think this particular reviewer is being a bit too hard on this finale though, id of given it a solid B. There were some errors but I had a lot of fun watching it.

Not really Hell, he got dragged into the Speed Force and turned into the Black Flash, essentially he's a slave to the Speed Force cursed to bring Speedsters to their end when their time comes.

Im sorry to say to the reviewer here, next season will almost definitely have a Speedster as the kind of sort of big bad if it's Gonna be a Flashpoint Adapation Thawne was the big bad of that particular story. Though I don't expect the Flashpoint arc to last ALL season.

I could see Flashpoint lasting till the mid-season finale actually.

Alternate Universe Shinnanigans man, don't overthink them.

I don't want to live in a world with a helmetless Jay Garrick.

Im sure they'd like to but im not sure if WB is still allowing them to use him.

Also if anyone noticed, Zoom became the Black Flash, you could see his costume morphing into that of Black Flash (Red Ear Pieces, White Emblem) while his face was rotting.

It'll only be temporary for part of the season probably, culminating in the fixing of the Timeline somehow folding Supergirl into the CWverse I guess.

Kon, Kon-El, Conner you know whatever.

Yeah I mean, Legends of Tomorrow literally just did a GIANT ROBOT FIGHT like 2 weeks ago. And the Flash has given us Psychic Gorillas and Shark People.