It is, and it is something about the show I appreciate.

3. I agree, I'm just saying it seeds the way she handles people and does, in fact, manipulate them through lying - just to a far more benevolent means.

Your opinion.

Except if that is what she did, she would have slept with Tyrion and not have left the Purple Wedding.

He set up a story where she was a simpleton and couldn't speak.

2. She saved her ass yes, but she did voluntarily save Dontos as well.

Except there's a scene right after her scene with the Lords Declarant where he asks her *why* she saved him. Because she did. Of her own accord.

She never seriously considered pushing anyone of ledges …oh wait, she did.

That's your preference. I think the writers, in this instance, were wrong.

Well, the final nail in the coffin of….Her innocence?

I'd settle for Stephen DeKnight, personally. Maybe Bryan Fuller.

Fighting words!

I do my best, but people keep thinking I want rainbows and sparkles and declarations of true reformed love.

Actually, no, that's how you think I want it.

Well, people did think the season long showcase of Theon being tortured was redundant.

Well they certainly did this episode.

Could argue the major shift was Melisandre meeting Thoros to learn about bringing people back to life, for later use up North….

I think you're trolling. Not….Sure…

It's like if he took that oath he swore seriously…

It means if you stalk her and badger her enough, she just might put out!