You’re right. How dare I want to live in a freestanding house.

No, But Ms Walker’s “ban cars” work, the article linked at the end of this one, is.

I don’t want it “both ways.”

The author of this article literally gave you that citation in the last line.

Public transit?

Maybe if people cant commute to their jobs the company will move to where it’s workers can live rather than where the owners can live. Or, maybe they will pay more so their workers can live closer to the office. Maybe.

No, it isn’t. But I wasn’t talking about Paris specifically. I was reacting to the generalistic “ban cars” movement the author alluded to at the end of the article.

I absolutely agree Paris is probably a city that needs some sort of transit overhaul. Calling cars “archaic” seems a bit dramatic, but I’ve never been there, so what do I know. My comment was about larger cities in general, and the generalistic “ban cars” movement the author alluded to at the end of the article.

Sounds a lot like LA.

and arguably through enabling the exurb as a normal thing has even perpetuated racism - if you never see a black person, you can dehumanize them

Fair enough.

Semantics :P

So I wanted to avoid this hand grenade originally, but some people jumped on this band wagon, so I will address it. I am not trying to make Los Angeles “fit” car usage. The AAA and lobbies did that for me the better part of a century ago. Public transit advocates are trying to make mass transit work for LA, which is…

Driving to work everyday as opposed to taking the bus is an example of lazy and overprivileged? I work 10 hours a day. Not terribly long, but not exactly what I would call “lazy.” As for over privileged... I spent most of my life commuting in a car that cost $500... interesting definition of privilege.

Know what else is a first world problem? Crying over cars and too much traffic in your mega city. Maybe the “ban cars” movement should “get over it.”

And I am happy for you. But that does not work for everyone. People have different wants and needs. The “ban cars” movement seems to be pretty cavalier towards people’s attitudes or desire’s that do not match their own. And that is unfortunate. I would hope to try to open their eyes to that.

It is not is Los Angeles. A car is necessary for the majority of people here.

Maybe. But this conversation wasn’t just about Paris. If you read my comment, you would have seen that I reacted to the link Justin put in regarding Alissa Walker’s earlier work, which was a far more general “ban cars” view. I have never been to Paris so I have no concrete opinion on their situation. I can, however,…

Nowhere in bhtooefr’s comment did he mention Paris, or an ancient city, or even a city with efficient transit. Instead, the comment was directed at large cities in general. As such, I felt it important to point out that not all people would benefit from public transit only in every large city, particularly Los Angeles.

Ya, but we should ban all cars anyway... because... reasons.