What’s the over/under regarding when Elio collapses for good? Sorry but this startup automotive company is checking off all of the boxes in this cliche.

They can just put a handle on the back, so you can lift it out like a snowmachine.

Will it fall off like the fender did?

I’ll go with flying cars - we were promised those long before the Elio.

Elio is today’s Aptera:

common, they should just make an optionnal snowmobile track available.

But at least it exists. 

Their pizza is terrible. 

I think we could use an Elio Motors vs. Flying Car series. Which one will remain vapourware longest?

I still really want one of these, just because it would be so much fun to hoon the crap out of in the winter. And then get stuck in 2 inches of snow. I’ll probably keep a shovel mounted on the roof.

But why single these companies out? I know of quite a few street cars that use an ECU from Apexi Power FC, AEM etc. Sure it says “offroad use only” but its not like that will stop people.

Yeah, how about that.  Money in politics the big motivator for legislation.  What could go wrong?

I think the bigger issue was that these companies specifically marketed that their products allow the user to circumvent the laws and regulations in place. 

Not a bad idea. Alternatively, take a queue from Clarkson in GT’s Mozambique special and use the exhaust as a smoker. Rednecks love their smoked briskets and pork shoulders!

I’ve been running COBB tuned engines in two of my cars for years. My WRX was stage 2 with a full aftermarket exhaust but passed PA emissions testing every year of the 10- years I owned it. My new Foz XT is stage 1 and had no issues passing last year. I don’t remember there being an “off road use only” warning anywhere…

I can’t believe a post lauding the benefits of fake exhaust radio noise has stars on this site...

when the site wasn’t advertising or marketing itself to those clientele in the first place?

That's not a great analogy. The code is perfectly legal. Weaponizing it and selling it as a weapon is.

It’s either on the level of an access device. Like a credit card skimmer, GPS jammer, cell site simulator, 900mhz receiver, currency plates. Or perhaps it’s an intent thing, like precursor chemicals, lockpicks, spore prints, thermatic Lance, fertilizer, that are possesed with an intent to break the law.

You hit the nail on the head, that still makes the end user client the offender in the end though right? When did that get taken out of the loop?