It makes them more unstable — not a good thing when you’re bump-drafting with rounded-face bumpers at a couple hundred miles per hour.

I am 100% for globalism and free trade, both of which have monumentally improved the quality of life for Americans as well as the global poor. I am also for Americans voluntarily jointing unions if they think that is the best decision for them.

Yeah, that’s the gist I get also. Let’s be honest, the $4500 bonus for union labor as part of the credit is so blatantly obvious a bone for union donors. It has nothing to do with EV adoption, nor does it have to do with US made (that only was given a pittance $500 bonus). I doubt Manchin is against the base $7500 EV…

Well his point is we shouldn’t be exercising that power to pick union shops as winner and non-union shops as losers. Obviously, with the power to “pick winners and losers,” there comes discretion. He’s saying we shouldn’t exercise that power in this way, not that we don’t HAVE it.

More like all in if the credit applied to all manufacturers, like he said. 

Frankly the credit should apply to all EV’s. Union made is nice to have but you'll see faster implementation if you expand it to all auto manufacturers. I don't see an issue with Manchins opinion here. 

He is only against the additional EV tax credit for union-build EVs, as opposed to non-union built EVs. The author of this piece has no idea what he’s talking about.

He is only against the additional EV tax credit for union-build EVs, as opposed to non-union built EVs. The author of this piece has no idea what he’s talking about.

He is only against the additional EV tax credit for union-build EVs, as opposed to non-union built EVs. The author of this piece has no idea what he’s talking about.

Clearly the author didn’t. What a dipshit.

Probably the only person who read this.

His beef is only with the ADDITIONAL tax credit for union-built EVs. 

Misleading headline is misleading. He wants to ditch the extra $4,500 for union-build EVs. That’s a totally reasonable position; this is a climate-change provision, and global Co2 concentrations don’t give a shit if an EV is made by union labor or not. Good on Manchin for putting his foot down on this.

The union requirement is utter BS.  Government has no place backing one American company over another American company.  Complete BS.

If we want top promote EV adoption then the credit should go to all EVs.

while I hate the guy, barring it to unionized only does seem wrong and only half hearted. I mean look at the state of UAW

Tesla and Musk agree with the EV credits, just not the extra $4500 for union produced cars. Tesla is undisputed ly the most American made car... By a lot. And they pay over scale. Yet, their cars will be disadvantaged to Ford and GM that ships most of its jobs and parts suppliers out of the country.

I friggin’ HATE myself for thinking logically, but Joe’s right: you literally cannot give Ford/GM buyers bigger tax breaks than a competing brand. That really is an unfair business practice when they make the same products and if every country did that, the world would not exist as it does today (not a compliment to…

He’s right.  We shouldn’t pick winners.  Why is the proviso that it must be unionized workers in the factory in order to get the incentive.  That is playing pure politics.  That is not the only proviso like that, but biased folks aren’t willing to acknowledge that.

I have disagreed with almost every stance he has made on this bill. But I cannot complain about this one. If this tax credit went to ANY EV purchase, I would have an issue with his opposition. But this is not a climate bill. This is a pro-Union bill.