This is a real “common clay of the new west” take

Is it just me or is “From the Producers of” a red flag in movie trailers?

This is going to be a mess. If this stretches into spring, it will take forever to get productions up and running because so many schedules will become irrelevant. And a flood of additional show cancellations can be expected. But the craziest part is that the WGA deal goes back to May 1, meaning they could be as much…

Yeah, specifically apparently SAG-AFTRA was asking for 2% of revenue from streaming and the AMPTP said “that’s unreasonable.” Forgive me, but I seem to recall most actors’ backend deals are waaaaaaaaaaaaay higher than 2%! Bruce Willis took 14% on The Sixth Sense IIRC (on gross! not net!)...

Even if you take the studios at their word (because studios never lie about finances), WB, NBCUniversal, Sony, and Paramount had nearly five billion in profits in 2022 according to The Hollywood Reporter.

Can we finally add South Park to the list of overly long running adult animated shows that need to die already?

My favourite Roz sex joke is one that she makes sarcastically: after Frasier has suggested that the men Roz dates aren’t good enough for Daphne, she gets (rightfully) fed up and storms out of Nervosa. Frasier tries to beg her to stay, to which she snaps, “I can’t, the fleet is in!”

See, I actually think it works because Roz is not really the butt of the joke, and a lot of those remarks come with tinge of jealousy that Frasier and Niles are not as sexually active as Roz is (believe it or not, a lot of slut-shaming is a way of expressing frustration that you’re not getting any yourself)... 

I never made that connection before, but yes!

I thought of it more as the writers wanting to mock Roz for her promiscuity at the same time as making fun of the stuffy, prudish Crane boys and their beta ways. Social conditions were such that they could have their cake and eat it too. Those audience members who wanted to laugh at Roz could and those who thought it…

It doesn’t bother me as much as it would otherwise, though, because Roz clearly didn’t give a crap what they thought. I adore how self-assured she was throughout the show, which made the few moments she wasn’t (for example, when she worried she didn’t know enough to be a mom) so poignant.

A different way to look at this dynamic is that in order for Roz to be so profoundly sex-positive, she needed the foil of the slut-shaming Crane brothers. It’s that contrast that makes her shine so brightly to the audience.

And that was kind of a progressive show for it’s time too.

That’s such a Samantha thing to say!

Completely disagree... It’s used as a vehicle for the two of them to have a discussion about their plutonic love for each other by the end of that two-parter. I think that 30 Rock did it better with Jack and Liz in the series finale, but when Frasier and Roz finally have that discussion about how much they care about…

I don’t know about the other shows, but women describing themselves as being Rachels or Monicas was definitely the 90s version of Ginger versus Mary Ann.

I don’t recall the details and I’m too lazy to google it, but if I recall correctly the issue was how Lisa Kudrow played the character. I believe she was playing it very meek, and there was a lack of chemistry between her and Kelsey Grammer. Roz’s take no shit attitude was definitely needed to make that role work. 

For those who don’t know, Lisa Kudrow was originally slated to play Roz. How different that would have been. 

I love Roz Doyle as a character, which is why I’m dreading her upcoming appearance on nu-Frasier - given what I’ve heard about how much of Frasier’s backstory is ignored for cheap laughs, I can’t imagine the new show giving Roz her due.