I was thinking much the same thing. She would have knowledge as his business manager if he wrote checks to pay off any victims. I can see the judge saying any spousal communication is off the table but the finances she has to testify.
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Uh, because it makes it clearly not a song about rape, but about overcoming gender expectations to get laid? Should all songs referencing inequality be dismissed as “fucked up” by people unable to judge them in their own time?
Loesser wrote it, and he and his wife used to perform it at parties. When he sold the rights, she divorced him because it was ‘their’ song (she also divorced him for other reasons, bu that didn’t help). Certainly the song is antiquated, but it doesn’t exactly deserve the date-rape reputation it currently has. It’s…
But it isn’t secretly. She’s saying to the guy, “look, I don’t want to leave and if I stay I’m going to have to say I had no other choice. I want to, but people are going to be talking if I do.”
This was twenty to thirty years before the sexual revolution was in full swing. Twenty years before Friedan. Back in the days of the MRS degree. There absolutely were different expectations of behavior for women then.
The stigma that still applies today in some areas of America that for a single girl to spend the night with someone is scandalous and inappropriate? People were still sleeping in seperate beds in the movies in the 40s — America wasn't exactly a bastion of sexual enlightenment.
Because this is Jezebel. Reasonableness has no place here. :)
Ha, ugh. I actually was firmly on the date rape side of this song until I read those tweets a few days ago and had a new take on it. Google failed me in finding them.
How is “a woman afraid of what society thinks eventually overcomes that fear and does what she wants” not an improvement over “a man roofies and rapes a woman who just wants to get home to her family”?
Duck! Incoming! :)
Someone on Twitter recently (I wish I could remember who) pointed out that, the way it was originally written and performed, what this song is really about is a woman who wants to buck social norms of propriety and stay with him but feels pressured to leave so she doesn’t suffer social consequences and stigma. And…
Yeah. I know I’m preaching to the choir, but I’m anonymous so I’ll throw out into the universe how this little type of mentality some people have affected my family...and the repercussions of this reverberated in my siblings’ lives and out into the world...
I'm still at a loss as to how moving him to Mass gets him away from temptation... There are women in Mass just like Pennsylvania, no?
The subpoena isn’t about legally blaming her. It’s about questioning her about what she knows. She is a potential witness with potentially relevant information.
I agree. I don’t think she’s nearly as dumb as she’d like us to think though. She’s a monster too, in a more subtle way. She’s proven to us that she’d marry and stay married to the devil...if he had the coins to keep her living luxuriously.
I could see certain questions or areas of questioning being excluded, but if she was his business manager, then I can see the judge ruling for the plaintiffs’ attorneys to question her about that.
Bill Cosby enabled this woman to live a very comfortable, very privileged life. People rationalize a whole lot of things when it comes to protecting their lifestyle.
Dude. We do tell our kid no. Like, we have to? We are not rich. They get 3 toys a year each. It is like it is the fucking 80s in here. Don’t worry. I have 3 and I am a teacher. Do the math. Also, Christmas here is a Dickensian one toy per kid deal, none of that Instagram orgy with each kid getting 3 square feet of…
Better than the Addams family house? I think not....