I saw a nice brabus when I was there in ‘14... Saw some ferraris too

yup, as long as it’s not lethal or too debilitating, I don’t mind some painful lessons learnt

i was thinking lotus esprit

meh.. it’s specs are underwhelming... 4.9s 0-60... somehow i don’t buy the 193 mph top speed. My ls3 camaro can pull harder

even so, how hard is it to reign in like 280 ft/lbs

It was about triumph and bravery.. about having the spirit to go against what you’re “told” to do, for the sake of freedom, exploration, and growth, and what you otherwise would not experience. This is something that everyone can relate to...

Uh, no I gave a better answer on the original post....

this is the first gen to really be designed to compete with the world... it is now fair game to be directly compared, and with that comes all the hesitation and reluctantcy you expect.

Well GM has really entered the fold with this latest gen of cars... This is the first gen of cars really designed to compete with the best in the world... it is no longer an isolated, politically protected, domestic market.. Perhaps this is the result we should have anticipated considering all the top notch…

I don’t know how you are framing your comparisons.... a 350r is already 10% better than a 350 .... A 1le will lap a 350

yeah... it’ll be the dodge dart nitro hellbear srt-6

or an ats-v for 6k less?

I know this is the “alpha” but the ats-v seems even more like a stellar package with this thing in the lineup

needs an ls3 for that old school lope

reminds me of the cringe-worthy time the kid at the nicest caddy dealer in town, who pulled my car up after general maintenance forgot(didn’t know) to take the car out of gear before shutting it off... Needless to say I did not appreciate the massive lurch forward

similar situation... I already feel like a scroogey old man... The trick for me is to age in a way that doesn’t make me spiritually exhausted and old

Yeah, and how is this “new”? the specs are identical to the 10 year+ old c5 and c6 Zs....

Also, how is the power-to-weight ration similar to a Mustang GT? 15 Gts are 3700+

Maybe I’m missing something, but this is not dissimilar from c5 or c6 z ?