These things are bulletproof and capable offroaders but they are slow as all hell. I drove a few when I was in the Army and they can barely get out of their own way. They'll get you there every time but it will take ages.

Yes! So that means this article is about Sonic Auto is sitting in a car clinking glass bottles that are on his fingers while yelling "CarMax! Come out and Pla-ay!"

Although it's good that she passed, it's hardly a ringing endorsement of her skills as an instructor, is it?

> whether a customer asking to go to "the G" was referring to Geelong, the post office
> or the Melbourne cricket ground.

extended test... like taking his girlfriend out on the weekend in "his" new ride.

Guys stop. There is no disputing that this is way WAY out of line. If there was an issue with the navigation system (the owner dropped the car in for service: had he even reported any issue with the navi?) a 20-mile round trip should be sufficient to identify the problem. Putting 340 miles on a car over the weekend,…

Video of technician testing the navigation system:

All dealerships do that sort of testing. The problem here is that the car was taken without his permission. Stop being dense.

yeah, and a leased house, like a leased car, doesn't mean that the lessor can just show up and be like hey man, i need to shit in your sink, brb. the lease agreement isn't going to say "if you bring your car in for service we can take it home for the weekend." that's why when you go into service they don't ask you if…

You're a moron who doesn't understand the legal concept of a lease.

Sorry, but you are incorrect. Anyone can sell a leased car, jut like anyone can sell a financed car. You just need to pay off the remaining balance owed, which, with a lease, includes the residual. You own the car for the time period of the lease, it is the collateral with which the bank is basing the lease payments…

Does this mean I'm just "renting" my home from the bank until I pay off my mortgage? I think not. This is a bad analogy.

Actually yes, if you rent a house you can remodel. You only have to put it back the way it was when you leave. Yes, a fire pole would be fine, so long as everything was put back at the end of the lease. In fact these sorts of things are protected by law in my state.

That's the same as saying the bank owns your house if you have a mortgage. No, they don't. They have a lien, or a security interest, but you do own the car/house/etc. You can do whatever you want with it, modify it, paint it, whatever, but if you want to transfer ownership, you must satisfy the debt so the lien is…

This is wrong. When you finance a car, the bank pays for the car, and you pay the bank back in installments. The title for the vehicle in question has both the name of the bank and your name on it—in that order. This is why, if you stop making payments, the bank can repossess the car from you.

Actually you can sell a leased car.

'shouldn't count towards his lease' but that's only if those miles are documents. Clearly they weren't going to be in this case :)

If you finance a car, it isn't yours until the loan is payed off. It may be registered to you, but you don't hold the title, the bank does.

Not that any of that matters in this case. Even if the dealership or some other leasing entity "owns" the car, they should still be concerned with their techs using the car without…

Wrong. It is his, he has sole possessory interest. His name is on the title. And it's not a never ending payment. You are just paying depreciation during the lease, and there's an agreed to price you can buy it for a the end of the lease. Absolutely 0 difference in financing and paying off if you choose to own it…

Correct, they do own it - but you still have rights to the vehicle. the bank can't show up and be like "hey bro we're going to the lake for the weekend, need your truck, kbai." That's all I mean.