hahaha. It may very well have been. Though he would have been part of a crowd saying similar things just a tad less racist when stating it publicly in person.

It wasn’t this guy, was it?

I actually got in an argument with a hoard of Sanders supporters recently wherein their feelings were only caucuses should count and every state should have one because they bring out the real voters, the ones who are willing to get off their couch.

Washington! I’m so happy. They won’t finalize the rules for a couple of years, but the official status going forward is that we’ll be moving on without caucuses and that the state has outgrown them. Only took months of lobbying and campaigning.

Then why are you so defensive about his terrible campaign? I love Hillary but her campaign in 2008 wasn’t very good. It’s okay to admit it.

Why can’t you just accept that your candidate couldn’t convince enough people to vote for him? He ran a bad campaign and people weren’t swayed. He lost by 3.5 mil votes, way more than Hillary lost by in ‘08.

Yeah, you’re right. Racism is totally over and a black man definitely faced fewer societal obstacles than a white man. You’re trollin’ so hard.

I hate caucuses. Which state got rid of them this year?

People made the same argument in ‘08 and Hillary was defeated quite soundly by Barack Obama. Maybe Bernie’s just a shitty candidate who not enough people liked. Occam’s Razor, bro.

Complaining about closed primaries seems like complaining that you can’t vote in for a neighboring town’s mayor. You don’t live in that town! Sorry!

Why “duh”? I don’t see any Sanders supporters speaking out against caucuses. That is my point. If we want to discuss overhauling the system then the entire system needs to be discussed.

And THIS is why Sanders and his supporters are full of shit. They could care less about the millions of voters disenfranchised by caucuses.

The primary rules depends on individual state leadership. If you want to remain an independent, fine. Just don’t expect to get pity invites to participate in a specific party’s events.

Closed primaries are bad because Sanders did poorly in them. Caucuses are good because Sanders did well in them. Hope that clears everything up!

If independents want to vote in either the Democratic or Republican primaries, they should register as a member of that party...following the rules of their state and doing so in a timely manner.

Why should “independents” get to choose a candidate for a party they won’t join for even a split second? It’s not like you can’t sign up for one party for a primary, vote for whoever you want in the general, and then switch to a different party for the next primary. No one is being disenfranchised, since, again, only…

That’s an insane logical extreme and totally irrelevant to our system and the conversation at hand. I’m not a huge fan of only having two parties, but closed primaries for them don’t bother me one bit. Independents are welcome to organize their own system and build their own structure that suits them. Open primaries…

Seriously. Why wouldn’t a private organization support only members of their organization picking the defacto leader of that organization?

Closed primaries can be good or bad. They do help prevent party outsiders from crossing parties to help elected a worse candidate, but also (in a two party system) limits who can vote. On the bad side - the next PM of the UK is going to be chosen by 150,000 dues paying members of the Conservative party (it’s not a…

Exactly. The alternative is called ratfucking.