I cited several sources above where radfem events like RadFem 2013 were shut down through the efforts of MRAs and trans activists. Have any examples of radical feminists doing anything similar to trans events?
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Lol, citation needed, re: radfems and MRAs working together.
If you are actually interested and insist that information about trans activists shutting down radfem events must come from a neutral or trans-centric source in order to be valid, please feel free to use your internet connection to use conduct your own research. But your position that the experiences of women who have…
Before I started Depo and my period stopped altogether, I felt like I had been hit by a truck for a week before my period and went kind of insane. I'd become filled with righteous anger or deep despair, and it wasn't until after my period started that I was even capable of going, "Oh, hormones are causing this. Duh."…
It sounds as though they are welcome to come, but would hope that they would respect the "intention" of the festival as being a safe space for "womyn-born-womyn." I have read other comments that say it sounds like they are asking trans women and men to self-exclude, but I don't think that's necessarily true. Trans…
Some trans people do want trans-only spaces where they can talk, connect, and be surrounded by people with similar experiences. My city's LGBT community center has support groups for black trans men, black trans women, trans-masculine people, intersex people. So some people clearly do find value in having their own…
From MichFest founder Lisa Vigel:
Writing books about the issue that take a controversial stance that you disagree with is not exactly "persecution." Both sides have been going back and forth for a very long time, in academic circles. I don't think one could reasonably argue that members of the trans community threatening and intimidating radfem…
To clarify, I really don't think trans people should be excluded from any space. I can appreciate some women's need for their own space (trans and cis), even if I don't share in them. I think it would be great if MichFest welcomed trans women (and men) with open arms, but I am also sympathetic to the founders wanting…
I understand that. You also quote and discuss other trans responses to this issue. I thought you balanced various perspectives well. I did not mean to imply that you were speaking for all trans women; I meant that various trans perspectives about MichFest are well-represented in your piece. I don't think the original…
Both sides have treated each other like shit for decades and continue to do so. I'm really not going to say that the trans community is coming out looking squeaky clean when conferences/events for radfems are often shut down and moved amid threats of violence.
Right, which is why I said both sides are refusing to listen to each other. The trans community has basically said, "Let us into your stupid festival you out of touch hairy old grannies." Both sides are shutting down the conversation.
I don't necessarily agree that the "racist grandmother" analogy quite applies here, given that second-wave feminist thought laid the groundwork for so much of the progress that has been made for women in the last 60 years or so. And they went to the mat dissecting gender, sex, society, patriarchy, sexuality, and what…
I used to identify as a radical feminist and I honestly fall somewhere in between the 2nd and 3rd wave, personally. (2 and a half wave feminist?) I think inclusion is overall a good thing for everyone, but at the same time, I don't think that abrasively demanding that an event that has been designed for…
That's all well and good. Feel free to elaborate on that point if you feel it is not clear to readers of this piece. I'm a woman-born-woman or cis gender woman (though I dislike both of those terms for various reasons) so it's not entirely appropriate for me to explain the trans side of the story. But the original…
Right, and we're getting the trans perspective in the piece above. I was trying to explain to the cis hetero dude up there why it's really not as simple as he's painting it and why radical feminists are causing a "fuss." It's not really a fuss so much as it is a long-standing, massive conflict of thought.
What you're missing is that trans feminists and intersectional feminist are casually tossing out DECADES of feminist thought about sex and gender. Many radical feminists see trans women as yet another example of people with dicks demanding access to their spaces, telling them they know their shit better than they do,…
Let me guess. You're 22 and just became vegan, right? Because only immature little newbies don't allow for any complexity in the human experience. Fuck off, kiddo.
They're really not even very progressive or compassionate when it comes to many animals. PETA's stance on feral cats is that they should be rounded up and killed (despite evidence that this has no effect on the population of feral cats as a whole while Trap-Neuter-Return efforts that involve community targeting has a…