I posted it elsewhere, but you guys still don't get Trump. You are still under the impression he's an idiot who just is in this for the fun. Donald Trump just defeated hundreds of billions of dollars and the foremost establishment power blocks of both sides. He did with almost no allies and without even remotely…

Not economically, they are not.

You guys still don't get Trump. You are still under the impression he's an idiot who just is in this for the fun.

"and most black people"

I have family members who are in prison because of Bill Clinton. I was talking about popularity and the ability to get elected, not how good of presidents they were. They were both mediocre presidents propped up by the press.

Where do you live that things are better for working class black people than they were twenty years ago?

Not really. Things are bad for anyone who is working class and getting worse, and has been for 30 years. It's not my fault that people here don't actually know working class people, non-service division.

Since when are we considering Fox News mainstream media? If they're mainstream, Bretibart and Drudge Report are mainstream.

Obama and Clinton were both extremely popular centrists, so it can work just fine. But this was absolutely not the election cycle for it.

Yes, as I said, Trump's election forced a difference, and now the Democrats will force on back.

In what conceivable way?

Everyone was afraid when Dubya got in that Roe v. Wade would be repealed. This was a silly fear. The Bushes don't give four figs about social issues except to rile up the base. They care about green and only green.

Where are the current protestors being called anything worse? Have a link or a source?

Where are the current protestors being called anything worse? Have a link or a source?

The two parties were the same. What policy differences can you give me between Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton? Trump forced the Republicans into difference, just as his election will force the democrats into difference.

If by "fairer," you mean everything has gotten worse for almost everyone who works for a living, you are correct.

Maybe I'm just missed all that wonderful, favorable mainstream coverage of the Bundys. Because everything I read was disgust and confusion that they got off.

Yes, the reason we lost is because we just weren't funny enough.

Corporate media was doing nothing but stoking fear that Trump supporters wouldn't accept the result and we'd have rural militias bombing courthouses on 11/9. Come on.

You stupid.