Apples and oranges, my friend.

I didn’t vote for either because it didn’t matter one iota if I did in New York. If you understood probabilities and the electoral college, you would understand this.

There are many things to blame. I put the most on the DNC, which did some pretty shoddy things and were poor at strategizing.

No. I wanted to show the DNC that their actions do not fly.

That’s a shitty thing to say. I don’t want him as my president and I did not vote for him.

Really? :(

That’s your assessment, which is typical of a Hillary supporter.

I would agree with your first sentence. However, I dont view my vote as selfish or wreckless given the 97% chance of NY voting blue.

I’m lgbt and POC. Another thing Clinton supporters did that was detrimental was erase us by insisting all loud and proud Bernie supporters were white.

Oh, and stop with the condescending ‘objectively wrong’ and ‘not debatable’. You don’t get to decide that any more than I get to decide how math works. Just because you say it affirmatively doesn’t make you right.

Ha, no.

There are worlds of difference in probability of trump being elected in Mich or Wisc vs California or New York. It’s logic.

No, I mean a massive difference in a third party voter in a questionable state and a third party voter in safe one. Anyway, like I said, Hill largely ignored them, too.

Oh, and you know who else treated them like safe states? The Clinton campaign. OOPS!

Those states are not “safe” IMO. But take it up with them! Not third party voters in actual safe states. There’s a massive difference no one is acknowledging.

Dude, I’m in a safe state. If I weren’t, I for sure would have voted for Hillary.

I’m a POC bi woman in an extremely safe state who voted third party and would do it again.

Oh, Jezzies. Don’t you think your (and other Clinton supporters’) tactic of shaming and being condescending towards third party voters had something to do with them not “falling in line” with what you wanted them to do? It’s understandable to be angry and frustrated, but shaming and condescension is not effective,…

Ugh, thank you. I think Jez hurt Hillary’s chances more then helped them. The people who liked the Saint Hillary treatment she got were already voting for her. And Jez and fans’ tactic for wooing third party voters was to shame them and be super condescending. Which, shocker, backfired.

Standing O