Come on guy ... Your ego is so bruised by my statements that you feel the need to rectify them. Not for the others that i have "offended" (your words), but for your own sake. I just stated my opinion. You're the one who got offended, you did that to yourself. I didn't set out to offend you, you chose to be…

I don't live in the US, and the GT86 actually tops out at 1298 kgs here. The FRS tops out at 1273. The FRS is lighter. Only japan gets the 1190 kg stripper version. Neither of these are light enough to deserve all the praise. I'm sorry. It's heavier than a ten year old corolla.

Second comment within a 10 minute timespan. I must've rustled your jimmies. Don't worry, though. I didn't mean to. It just seems that jimmies seem to rustle themselves quite a bit when someone says something about the BRZ.

Of course it's my opinion, this is a forum/comments section, is it not? I've stated it multiple times. Your analogies don't make sense. The BRZ is like a 7 series with cloth seats and no aircon. The suggestion is there, but it just ain't happening. It's not a sports car, it's a fun car. The fact that everyone is…

I'll put it in plain terms:

Given the nature of our specific geology, a lot of the trucks are off-road 6 wheel drive ones, but they are quite a bit more expensive. I still maintain that most of these trucks will never go off-road or haul anything near the capacity.

It will make something like at least 90% of it's peak torque between 1700 and 2500 RPM. That's a narrow powerband. It IS all down to gearing.

Towing trailers, going off-road ... i maintain that most of these trucks won't do any of that. FYI, this thing would also require a special license in the EU. Because it's just ridiculously big and heavy.

Yes. A bit large, aren't they?

An engine is something that rotates and builds momentum as it keeps producing the same amount of power/torque for as long as you fuel it. It is all down to gearing. Gear it for 60 mph at 2K/2.5K rpm and you'll get by with half the torque.

The thing is that the chassis is capable, but it's set up all wrong, because it would be very boring to drive otherwise. More power would make this car. Either more power, or a more playful chassis and less weight. It's not that light weight, it tips the scales at just under 1300 KG for the base model. There is…

I told you i own speedster, which is a lotus elise. I know all about momentum cars. The BRZ is not a momentum car, it suffers monumental understeer at high speed.

sigh ...

So then, 500-600 NM would do, right?

" which actually shouldn't matter as long as you're having fun." SO is it a sports car or just a fun car?

Base cayman? Yes

Son, 500-600 is more than enough to tow pretty much anything.

Well, hauling 10.000kg at 130 km/h is illegal here (as it should be). A 600 NM diesel motor will also produce 90% of it's torque at 1700 rpm. 1K+NM is excessive. As for geography ... you're not the only ones with elevation changes, mountain passes, etc. I'm not saying there's no need for work trucks. I'm just…

That's not my point, and i'm sorry if i came across like that. My point is isn't durable and will be quickly ruined if used for hard work.

You're never going to convince me. The fact that you've got BRZ in your nickname says it all, but just one more time.