I assume horsepower would be adequate.

Remember this whole Old GM, New GM thing every time they talk about heritage.

so you would disapprove of the underpants with pocket too?

That’s how he fits in your heart.

And David was an asshole who went about terrorizing the neighborhood in his cafe-racer Triumph.

Interesting idea. I wonder who could stand to benefit most by scooping up all the IP and engineering Elio has already created...?

It’s a pity this is belt drive, ‘cause you’ll never break a chain!

Maybe it’s cuz I’m a decent human being, but I try to sell a client on the car they seem most likely to buy. Two $1,000 commissions a day is better than one $2,000 commission because I go home with twice as many potential referrals, repeat buyers, positive CSI reviews, etc.

Why? Why is it different?

That’s actually an excellent point, and with the internet you have close to perfect knowledge of who else has that commodity.

maybe it’s me, but the whole ‘NOT effort to budge’ doesn’t seem to encourage much relationship building either. kind of like the salesman in one of my truck searches who listened to what i said i was looking for, handed me a card and told me to call him when i was ready to buy, and walked off. zero effort.

I find the whole “relationship” mechanic weird given the high turn over in car sales force. I’ve literally never talked to the same sales person twice as my car purchases are just so far apart. They’re usually long gone before I come back to buy again.

Need for Speed taught me all about these beauties, and I’m pretty sure Nicolas Cage is pointing at a 550 when doing his “self-indulgent weiners” line in Gone in 60 Seconds. That line is pretty ironic now, considering that any 550 you’d see out and about is probably owned by a connoisseur and not a new-money whatever.

You can’t relationship sell a commodity.

I have a relationship with my girlfriend. I don’t want one with a dealership.

Where was Raph when this happened?

What’s the value that the “relationship” offers the customer? When I’ve bought cars from dealers the only thing that happens prior to the sale in store that I couldn’t have done by email is the test drive.

I know why the caged Rolls sings

You raise some good points. The reality is that there are plenty of dealers willing to give me what I want without any “relationship” with the customer. In the case of the Avalon, I had a dealer come back with a quote over $9000 off the MSRP. This guy didn’t know me. He didn’t care, he just wanted the sale.