No really, I'm kind of used to people missing the point of what I ask anymore. It is nice though to see Americans discussing geography once in a while.
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people who use British and English interchangeably.
Yes, I know. I was disputing the argument that Scotland was completely under control of the British government, which is what the poster above me stated. My original argument though was more cultural than legal in definition.
Alright, I am adding this little edit because apparently a number of people were confused about the point I was attempting to make. I apologize for that confusion. Let me clarify:
My comment was in response to the logic of the comment above me. Their point was British was British because of the name of the island. I did not agree with that for the reasons I named.
That's interesting. Do you feel you are more Scottish than British or the same? I have a lot of family from Scotland that have always told me they saw themselves as distinct.
Actually a quick wiki search says...
Oh yeah, very much agree. Most British actors, especially in earlier British TV were classically trained, and the stage holds much higher respect there than it does in the US, which is very easy to see in many performances.
I think some in Texas might not feel they are part of the US anymore ;-)
Agreed.
I was just curious about where the line was being drawn. Personally I'm more interested in the stories than the accents of the people playing the parts.
I agree, I was just thinking about how the rest of the world perceives the use of certain terms. When I traveled in Europe, and told people I was "American" most took that to mean "The United States of America." No one asked me where in Canada I was from. It's perception, just like if you ask most people to speak in a…
Really all I was wondering when people said that the Doctor must be "British" then where is the line was being drawn? If an Irish actor wanted to play the role, and take on an English accent to do it, would it really impact the show that much? Heck, if it's filmed, produced, written, and aired in England, and 99% of…
Yes, but that is a bit like saying that Canadians and Mexicans are Americans because they both live in North America. Technically correct, but not culturally the same as Americans. And when you say "American" you rarely think "Canadian" in the same way that "British" makes you think "English" not "Scottish."
True. Many Welsh would actually consider themselves to be the true Brits, since their ancestors, the Brits, were driven west by the Saxons. I actually feel the Welsh therefore have a greater claim to the name Brit than most English do.
I am aware of the geography, yes. However the original post was about how the Doctor himself must always be inherently British, and regardless of the geographical boundaries, for the vast majority of the world "British" and "English" are synonymous, while "British" and "Scottish" are not. When McCoy began there were…
Trust me, I know quite a few Scotsmen who would be very upset at being called British.
What about Sylvester McCoy, David Tennant, or Peter Capaldi? They were all Scotish? What if the American does a British accent?
Yep, hence the meh.