This is the wrong forum for the “Nobody needs x amount of power” discussion. You’re looking for Consumer Reports or NaderFaves.org.

$4500 or so after negotiating for a basically modern, comfortable, drop-top cruiser that gets good gas mileage and can be fixed anywhere, anytime, by almost anyone with a mechanical background? Nice price.

It is, in fact, that ugly. Exactly that ugly, in fact.

A police union lying to the public?

Anyone who can afford a Rolls Royce pays less in taxes than they should.

See, if you were to pay attention to research and facts instead of relying on deeply flawed intuition you’d understand that the answer to your question lies in the research and facts to which you are not paying attention.

You are not the only one. I was wondering where the handles were - hidden behind trim? Interior-only for cost-savings? Factory poppers? 

Can confirm - I worked for a small regional appliance chain in the 1980s and delivery was part of the sale price for any appliance bigger than a toaster.

Spectacular - I love that kind of stuff!

Is it a 170 or a 225? And is it... aluminum?!?

Cool. I’m six-foot-six and about 300 in full gear; it seems like most bikes are built for people well under 6 foot and 200 pounds.

My bet is that they don’t want to spend the money required for an AWD hybrid’s safety and emissions certification until they see if how well the market reacts to what is, in the culturally conservative world of pickup trucks, the rough equivalent of attending Matt Gaetz’s’s wedding with RuPaul as your escort.

We must assume that he made 520,000 quarter-mile dragstrip passes in it.

That depends on whether the explainer does, or does not, support Brexit.

I for one would like to see more about your traction engines!

There are only 7 for sale within 100 miles of me in NorCal and the most expensive are $47,700 each.

Oooh, that’s pretty. What’s it take to make one of those ride and handle well under a 300 pound rider?

I’m thinking we might replace our 2019 Impreza Sport with this, since it will get much better fuel economy and be just as useful. I wonder how it is on long-ass road trips?

Most people only have TW...

Sure, sure... bring facts supported by evidence to an INTERNET DISPUTE!