You trolling is a hell of a lot more believable than this "I know he's awful in every other sense but by God he's not racist so I'll spend hours defending him even though I don't like or care about him because reasons of some kind!" And nah, a troll gives up once people catch on, because the aim of this stuff is never…

lol whatever dude.

Ah. Thanks, I'll stop bothering.

It's actually not "shite" - have you talked to many of your fellow supporters? I started talking to Trump supporters two years ago and encounter more all the time that just drop the pretense. Why not you? Let's at least respect each other enough to be honest.

"And the minute you quote any of those remarks that I'm telling you aren't racist but clearly are, I'll say they're made up/technically that's not race that's something else/he said it on tape but it's out of context!" Come on, dude, we had two years of this prior to him getting elected. I can't believe you're still…

Exactly. Its been depressing to watch people actively vote for and root for what's basically a feudal king. And back then there weren't nukes.

I'm not talking "burn it to the ground" politics either. I'm talking about valuing exactly what Trump's been doing: a combination of extreme capitalism and nationalism. This is what they actually want and value.

It's a warped way of looking at the world, for sure. They'll tell you they're perfectly happy Trump is making money off his hotels ("good for him!" one guy told me), theyll tell you that they're happy that we're going to war with North Korea because Kim Jung Un insulted us once, they'll tell you that Meals on Wheels…

I'm talking beyond even "sticking it to the libtards." There are people who legitimately think that what Trump is doing is good, not as revenge but as actual policy ( or lack thereof). These people value nothing, not even revenge. It has been the most dispiriting thing to talk to them.

One of the hardest lessons for me personally in all this has been the realization that there are people who value Trump's lack of values. They're not being misled, they're not lying to themselves, they full on think that Trump's lies, constant picking of fights, and lack of a conscience is not just a good thing, but…

And that's just it. All these guys can talk and every word they say can be irrefutably true, and it still doesn't change a thing about where we are.

That's my experience and that's why I was asking. The Trump supporters tend to be a cynical bunch in my experience. When I asked my own Trump-supporting dad how he felt about the blatant lies, his response to me was that they all do it, anyone you could ever vote for would lie to your face, but the media wouldn't be…

Are there really? I have yet to encounter one. All the ones I talk to just shift the entire definition of "drain the swamp" instead.

It's not even me being cynical; it's literally what's happening at Stormfront right now. Unfortunately.

Not at all. It's clear to them how it had to be dragged out of him. They've treated all the other stuff as a wink and nod to them, they'll treat this the same way.

Only with women though, because their "fertile years" are when they're under 30. The Venn Diagram crossover between neo Nazis and Red Pillers appears to be one hundred percent.

He wouldn't say it because neoNazis are huge Trump fans, and nothing matters more to Trump than adoration. He also wouldn't say it because he himself is slightly racist. Not neoNazi racist, just old school 50s racist. He feels a bit of sympathy for them.

Here's the thing: you're talking about physical things that would be apparent on looking at a person, yeah? It's apparent when you look at me that I keep myself in pretty decent shape. The guy who hired me for the job saw a woman, not a strong or a weak woman but just a woman, and when he said I couldn't do the job he…

I'd argue that's socialization again: you're "not a man" unless you make insane amounts of money and sacrifice your personal life. And yeah, mental pressure like that does break men from time to time. That's an aspect of culture I'd be happy to see die out.

I worked six months in a book warehouse a decade ago. It was the only work I could find that paid decently, but in the interview the guy who eventually hired me kept hemming and hawing around something. Eventually I got this sentence out of him: "This is dirty work lifting heavy things and girls probably shouldn't be…