@davepermen: so is it a discrete or integrated system? Or maybe a discrete unit with a added cpu for processing power, or maybe the reverse? There's a difference.

i feel like mounting this to a car.

@-MasterDex-: In terms of ATI and AMD, I personally don't even know wtf is Radeon. When I want to buy a graphics card, its either ATI or Nvidia. A CPU chip, intel or AMD.

sorry but having both product ranges squeeze under a single brand at this point would cause more confusion than before.

too busy drinking.

infinite explosions.

@anole3000: just enough to install windows and ff14.

@VincentGrey: better to be honest than politically correct.

@Toby: yeah thats nice, would be better if the inputs were on the top since my desktop goes under the table.

does this mean that ff14 is hardier than crysis?

@VincentGrey: mmm no. I think that description is fairly apt if you know the reference and context of the subject matter.

@mindloss: why is everyone talking about the cross media bar? do you only spend all your time on it or something?

@Rob47: no, im not even talking about those. Something subtle, decent and nice. This looks like the $60 case that put on the top of shelves at your local hardware shop.

the best of the best and yet, the casing looks so drab. seriously, this is bullshit. It's just a bunch of unscrupulous japanese businessmen thinking of how they can leech the most amount of money off the unsuspecting and gullible masses.

@get2sammyb: no they don't. The move cones do not substitute the standard controllers. Their functionality is different, the purpose is different and the experience is different.

lol @ fake skin suit. what a custom.

@davepermen: the main cpu is still a slap that you stick onto the motherboard while the gpu unit, even with the combined chip, is a big hulking object that you attach into the pci slot. Regardless of the added function, they are still clearly 2 separate markets. by absolving it into AMD, they've just added confusion…

@get2sammyb: you notice how you need 2 hands to use the standard controller?

what happens to the old controller? i dont really want to pick up and put down over and over again.

? i want to buy a graphics card, not a cpu. a name is a valuable asset. I think this is a mistake.