Sure, Elon, it is the big bad gummint keeping you down. Not your personality or shitty products or anything like that. Always someone else with him.

I take it from the comments that some feel that this one is special and unique, given the high spec trim with 4WD and a manual trans.

Whoa...what’s with the name calling? I thought we were having a good discussion and you completely devolved it. Sorry I asked some questions. All my statements/question where about the crux of what we were discussing. At no point did I ever malign you whatsoever. And now you call me ‘lazy’, a ‘fucking saint’…

Have you visited Europe recently? Go rent one of the Chinese EVs for a day.

1. Chevy bolt is out of production, but I guess you can buy used EVs. Also, the cheapest BYD is better than the bolt. also has a heat pump for that efficiency gain too lol.

Sorry, but BYD > Bolt, that little Vin fast Jimny > Leaf just based on looks =). The topic is EVs so there’s no point in bringing up gas, the goal of all this is to get as many people into EVs as possible. Let’s shake things up! You are right, in a capitalist and laisse faire economy, the government can do do little…

1st Gear: We will see what happens here, the Chinese companies have a huge ace in their hole in that the Chinese Gov will do whatever they can to help them succeed and excel, which that have already done with their rules around foriegn makers partnering with Chinese based companies.

It’s both. People think Chinese cars are like early Korean cars or very early Japanese cars. The reality is Chinese cars are high quality and cheap. Thats why they are the leading car manufacturing country in the world. 

2025… trust me bro!

3rd Gear: Oh, so NOW analysts are saying Tesla should be valued like a traditional car company (not a tech startup). I guess they made their millions/billions pumping the stock and they’re ready to move on to the next thing.

if my memories serves right, wasn’t Elon mocked at BYD before ???

It’s all let the free market decide, until it affects you Mr. Musk.

“Both President Joe Biden and not-President Donald Trump have signaled that they will not make life easy for Chinese automakers that want to bring their cars to the U.S.”

I think this listing is best described as “jumped the shark” Bring a Trailer.

I’m not even mad, this is basically Bring a Trailer coming full circle.

That’s why I’ve been watching the replies like

All you shmucks making a case for this thing are missing the point.

Although I do agree that there is something cool about a manual AWD Honda with low miles and no rust... I still feel like I have to post this GIF.

If this had a Reserve you would have a point.

I would call a super low-miles, stickshift, and relatively high spec one of these pretty special. Usually the low mileage survivors are grannie’s last ride in automatic poverty spec form.