Well. the new F80 M3 is actually like 50 lb lighter than the old E92 M3 cause the engine is a lot lighter from moving from the 4.0L V8 to the 3.0L turbo... But I literally don't know where the hell they put the other extra weight to make it only 50 lb lighter...

Man... I want to call the 7:38 time bs... The Camaro Z/28 "only" did it in 7:37.47... No way in hell a Boss 302 Mustang is as fast as the stripped down track oriented Camaro Z/28 without going through some major modifications.....

That's the price of innovation the first gen buyers would say.

Not really. if you look at my original reply to the article itself, I already said I expected the M4 to lose since it's not designed to be a sports car all the way through... just like how the M235i lost to the Cayman on their track battles too lol. (which was a FAR more valid comparison than this since the two were…

If you replace all of those things with electrical issues lol. But that's weird that they got a car that seems like has it's wheels misaligned...

Hey man. my BMW 135i has a curb weight of around 3350 lb lol. and it's got a 174 inch body length with a 104 inch wheel base lol. They sure aren't making them any lighter as they move on.

Which you can for under 20k easily when the parts come out... They're still developing some of the parts for the S55 engine...

Well, The 5/7 series (non M cars) all got AWD variants lol. I would love to see a M5 go against a Panamera Turbo though. Similar weight, similar power and length and only difference would be awd vs rwd...

Hahaha true enough. It's still surprising that a sports sedan can come so close to a base 911 Carrera though.

Any idea of the Nurburgring times? the M4 posted a 7:50 recently... and the old E92 M3 posted a 8:05...

Panamera is more like a 5 series or maybe 7 series since it's 195.6 inches long.... the 5 series is like 192-193 inches long and 7 series is 199+...

Let's see... Here's a box that costco puts my shit in when I go buy there so I can carry shit out easier

Well, tell that to a average person lol. People won't notice it (Hell... Even I don't notice it unless I take a closer look.)

Well. Obviously you don't have the need or want to carry around friends or kids (semi-comfortably) around frequently or buy things at the grocery store in bulk or fit large items in for weekend trips (for more than 1-2 people) and etc lol.

No question that the driving experience is way better in any Porsche compared to a BMW...

Daily driving is completely different than practical. You don't need to fit more than 1 person in a daily driver, you don't need to be able to fit random shit in the trunk or for multiple people.

and don't forget that you can lower the rear seats for access to the rear trunk/increase trunk space when you don't got people in the back lol. The frunk of the Carrera is pitiful in comparison...you can BARELY get one checked-in sized luggage into the frunk...

I already got a JB4 135i lol. Basically the same performance as the JB4/tuned M235i. (but uglier and want to understeer more with stock set-up)

The Carrera has as maybe a little more legroom than the bmw 1/2 series in the rear lol. Either they have no legs or they're little kids with a reasonably tall person (5'7-8"ish) in the front seat with a comfortable driving position. There's no way in hell you can fit 4 adults comfortably in a Carrera. (or even rear…

The driver does tell his thoughts in the ENTIRE SECOND HALF of the video.