If he wasn’t entrapped for who he is and what he does, and if indeed he refused to accept a pleading girls request to “Stop, No and Don’t” in order to have sex, then I hope he rots in jail. Until we have more facts, I just have a hard time believing that is true. With the facts we have I just believe her unmet…

I think it is being willfully ignorant to think there has ever been an historical moment where a man and woman stopped to do 1) and 2). This is a legal contrivance. Have you ever had sex? It starts with a kiss, leads to a touch, moves to clothes dropping and rubbing then penetration and typically within 5 minutes…

That’s my point too...for these men, they have obtained consent. a) came home with me, check b) removing inhibitions with drink, check c) flirting, kissing, undressing, check...wake up next morning and ask her to leave, “rape”, what?

The reality of sex is that women have a much larger role to play in getting themselves off and a much smaller role in getting their male partner off than it seems anyone wants to admit.

It was a great movie. I enjoyed the remake with Jason Mamoa too...well, at least the first 30 minutes. I think this character lends to good movies but inept producers, writers and directors seem to miss the spirit of this warrior and are unable to execute. It’s simple, a sword slinging barbarian with a lust for blood…

That’s the debate...is he a rapist or not? We don’t know if she is a victim or if a crime occurred. All we know is there is an investigation underway.

This isn’t an encounter where a male works game on a female and takes her home. This is subtly reversed. He is a well known male hitting on a female completely aware of who he is. She is a complete stranger. This means that she is in control. This wasn’t about him getting her to come home with him but her getting him…

No, not at all....but you don’t find it odd that she is completely at an advantage in this encounter. She knows exactly who he is...

Absolutely. I agree.

Oh no, she can rescind consent all she wants. The ultimate point is that only they would know, and she is then relying on a stranger to accept. So, for the sake of safety, your scenario is very dangerous. Especially when alcohol is involved.

Yes, I know. I also know that when it comes down to he said/she said it is much easier for men and women to come to the conclusion that the woman must have not communicated or he must have misunderstood than that the man is a criminal.

Leaving with him is a very public consensual move. After that, in private, it becomes a he said / she said.

I appreciate what you are saying. I have personally always conducted my affairs with women in the highest regard and without reproach. I expect others to do the same.

Neither. I am saying only:

I agree. However, one “Dude actually raped her” is rape. The other scenarios, which are the most likely are not rape.

I agree. This is getting nowhere. We will let the courts decide. I hope justice prevails.

This is not his partner. This is a girl he picked up in a bar who went home with him. Her no should have been in a crowded bar full of people when he asked her home, not in the privacy of his home when they were both drunk and turned on.

I think it is one thing to trust a stranger to do the right thing, it’s another to trust them to do the right thing when you have enabled their drunkenness and lust in their home willingly, then change your mind.

Well, I think that is the point. Men and women think very differently. Do you think Kane, a Stanley Cup champion had any interest in this girl outside sleeping with her? What were her motives? Probably in many ways similar...she wanted to be desired by him, went home with him to give him a sexual “tease” hoping to…

Or maybe she decided a hookup with a hockey champion was in order, went home with him, got in over her head, had sex and woke up regretting it. People drinking and horny make all kinds of bad decisions, doesn’t mean he forced himself on her or that she clearly communicated “No.”