you must have cataracts or something, either that or youre just crazy

Key engineering challenge: design a sports car which is simultaneously subject to terminal oversteer AND understeer.

This was beautiful.

Seriously. People who buy a new Nissan bought one because they didn’t try anything else.

A local dealer has a new ‘16 Club for $25,xxx. tempting.

Sounds about right. I loath anything with a CVT, and the entire Nissan lineup is about on par with Mitsubishi- relegated to the “also ran” group of Japanese makes.

I probably got the best deal in CA (if not the country) @ $3,500 under invoice before tax and reg. I didn’t qualify for loyalty or military rebates, otherwise I would have gotten a little more off. Dublin Mazda took on a bunch of 2016 Miata inventory earlier in the year and must have been compensated with extra…

I just bought a 2016 Honda Accord with 75 miles on it for $1500 less than a 2016 Honda Accord Certified (warranty to 100,000 miles) with 7,500 miles...I have yet to come up with a great explanation...other than,

This suggests that the Nissan Rogue is worth buying.

Counterpoint: I just fulfilled my Jalop duties by purchasing a new [check], manual [check] Miata [check].

Why would they listen to “enthusiasts?” The same people that won’t buy something new? Manufacturers know where their bread is buttered.

There’s really no ford sedan worth buying, so you know, there’s that.

He either has seriously crappy insurance, he’s a liar, or he’s a total idiot. With good insurance, if he gave permission for someone to drive the car, then his insurance will cover them.

Yeah, but then you will own a Buick.

Not having any nostalgia for old American cars makes this a hard sell for me, but it does look in good shape and is pretty nice looking. The price seems solid if it all checks out, but I don’t know what I would do with it, and there’s other useless cars I’d rather have for $6000. CP.

What are you doing on the trail that would destroy a screen on your center dash?

by trail I assume you mean going to Home Goods

Yeah, I’ve never really thought of VW as making reliable cars... these people must have their rose-colored glasses on.

Unless you are self-employed and use it for business. Then, a lease has tax advantages.

Or, do not lease a car from certain manufacturers who have some really crappy lease programs.