Don’t be like the police/news and break it down into the smallest possible quantity at the highest possible price and consider that it’s value...

It’s just under 7 pounds... with top quality, at that volume you are looking at $20-25k...

exactly...

My 08 is still on original engine with little outside of normal wear and tear items. That said, Coil’s every 30k are considered normal wear and tear on this car...

you have to beg for it when profitability rests in beating the national average which generally hovers around 95%... it’s honestly pathetic. it’s such a flawed and stupid system.

it’s such a messed up system. I wish the games didn’t have to be played, but when the difference between profitability and a business losing money rests on beating the national average(usually 96% or HIGHER) there is no choice but to play stupid games.

it gives them the opportunity to right a wrong...

This is already playing out with the Chevy Cruze and it’s 1.4T which can have major problems before 100k... Oil leaks, Head problems, turbo problems... it’s a mess...

exactly...

Depends on your definition of ripped off...

In my eyes, the only ugly Porsche ever... With the 1st Gen Panamera teetering on the line...

Holdback isn’t a huge number, generally between 1.5-3% of MSRP less Freight. So on mainstream cars, you are looking at between $250 and 1000. Performance goals can bring another $400-1000.

This post is spot on. Most new Car dealerships sales departments run at a loss, BEFORE LABOR, but every other operation runs at a profit and makes up for it.

True Car bills a dealer for any customer that has contacted TrueCar in the last year and then bought from a recommended dealer, at the TrueCar price or not.

This generation was released just as I was graduating college. I was drawn to the styling/price/v6 6 Speed combination... test drove it, wasn’t too impressed...

So true, I don’t understand economics either...

I ended up missing mine so bad I got another one... another S1, but I just came across the right car at the right time...

Absolutely hideous...

Triple what I think it’s worth...

That was 12 years ago.... Again, you are AT LEAST $10k light, probably closer to $20k...