joejoe1639
joejoe1639
joejoe1639

Who did he dare to commit suicide? I must’ve missed it in the article... Is that person alright? Did they do it?

I’ve been asking you whether you think a PR lynching that compromises his future is fair, and your responses have been that he’s a “scumbag” or “asshole” and deserves whatever he’s getting. It sounds an awful lot like you’re just angry and projecting that onto the situation, instead of sensibly reasoning whether

I feel like I have to remind you that he didn’t actually tell a legitimately suicidal person to “just do it.” He said if someone made the threat he would; which may have very well just been an empty gesture to make a point. A publicized campaign to defame and label him a monster in order to vindictively ruin whatever

You probably shouldn’t use the word “objectively” if you don’t know what it means. If in your opinion it makes me a garbage person then kudos, I’m not too worried about it.

You’re kind of not getting it; you’re mad at this person and it’s making you irrational. He didn’t tell someone who’s actually suicidal to kill themselves, he said he’d dare someone who threatened to commit suicide. Reason likely being that he probably doesn’t believe they would, because people on the internet lie

I understand that you don’t like him because he said something mean, but that’s causing you to miss the boat on what fair and unfair mean.

I know, that’s why I opened by saying they have the right to fire you. Having an outburst at work and being fired for it is normal and fair.

I think that being fired over an unprofessional outburst is fair, it’s the rest of the fallout that’s ridiculous. It’s the people unrelated to the situation who publicize these events, ‘create articles’ and ultimately make a career out of ruining peoples lives over relatively trivial outbursts.

Don’t think he’s saying that employers don’t have the right to fire you; just that the way things get overblown is inherently unfair.

It’s already contributing to apathy, though. There’s a reason this internet culture is so comfortable dismissing or even provoking people who claim they’re suicidal. It’s not because they earnestly want to be indirectly responsible for someone’s death, they just assume the person is full of shit, and for good reason.

Not very compassionate of you.

So, you didn’t actually read this article?

Just a perception test, not even directly applicable to this, but what would you do if every day for years I came onto this site and threatened to commit suicide? Every day people tell me how cool, funny and important I am to make me feel better and nothing ever comes of it.

I didn’t say his response was reasonable; just that his attitude towards this growing trend is reasonable. He should keep it to himself, though, when faced with a suicide threat, to avoid doing damage.

It’s not a problem for me personally, it’s just annoying.

Actually, worst case it becomes an epidemic of crying wolf that results in people who legitimately need help not being taken seriously. When something like this is drawn from too frequently people become emotionally numb to it; it’s just basic psychology.

The guy is a dick, but while suicide is a problem it’s also a very convenient prop for attention whores.

Regarding what?

It does make me happy that “scandals” like this only tend to make the perpetrator more popular. It seems the more insufferable people out there who can’t take a joke, the more drama, conflict and momentum you can build off of controversial jokes.

There’s really no “right” way to respond to an accusation of racism, sexism, etc. and that’s kind of the point. It’s a win-all in an argument. It’s a safe way to defame anyone you don’t like for any reason, and there’s no way they can come out of it looking good.