Wait - are we now saying we have to have ideological purity tests for every commercial transaction? (Why am I even asking this - the answer will be “of course”...)

... Yes, this is true and it should impact the reputation of their religion until they, at their highest levels, formally denounce the bad actors. Which doesn’t happen. It is not Islamophobic to say this.

No, the point of the ‘mansplaining’ statement is to prejudge all disagreement with the author’s conclusion as being malicious and in bad faith.

This infographic, and most of the wage gap debate, is misleading and poorly reported.

Michael Anson, the study doesn’t offer any evidence to support the headline, and meesterlimpy is correct that it doesn’t even pass the smell test. If there was really a 22% wage gap, I’d happily start a company full of women at 0% and make a killing.

Kudos. If you ever get out of the gray you’re going to get lit up. But, I commend you for being brave enough to come in here and say it; I partially agree but I think it might be social and cultural mores that hold women back in negotiation... not emotion.

They don’t like to do that because when you look at occupations that have narrow technical requirements - surprise - surprise - women earn just as much as the male peers - and in some cases more (eg. Chemical Engineers)

Here is an easy solution - women need to pursue technical degrees - we all agree that numbers and code are the future - so how come so many super bright female HS seniors end up taking Arts degrees?

The numbers in the chart above aren’t all controlled for everything. For pre-school and kindergarten teachers, it’s not controlling for the fact that male teachers are more likely to have advanced degrees, and, therefore, be paid more (in public school education salary is, in the vast majority of districts, based…

The infographic selectively adjusts criteria each time to show a gap. What is the gap if you control for everything except for gender?

You’re exactly correct. My wife is a teacher so I’ve heard all about it. There are so many instances in the article and attached data that doesn’t even pass the smell test. Nobody with half a brain is going to refute that there is a pay gap. But it’s not 22% That’s absurd. You can’t even go to the above quoted…

22% just doesn’t even pass the smell test. The commenters have shown several reasons why the above information could easily be wrong. I went to the go.epi.org/paygap website because I wanted to see more of their data. It just takes you to a stupid wage calculator where it shows you how much more or less you’ll get…

How about hours worked? That is not mentioned at all in the article and has a great influence on pay. I know several people (all female) that work 30 hour weeks, while they are making the same relative salary (translated to $/hour) they are getting paid less since they work less hours.

Not at all what he said. He specifically asked why don’t they control for negotiating. Women do work hard, but there is this concept that they are less likely to negotiate as aggressively as a man is for their pay.

Like all statistics, they can be setup to get the result you desire before you ever start collecting data. Say for instance, if you want to negate the fact that women have that whole pregnancy leave thing, then there’s 3-4 months of lower (or no) pay that women receive that their male counterparts get regular pay.…

Women are often more horrible to women than men are.

“race and ethnicity, education, experience, and location”

Don’t forget: If you’re working in a public school system, salary info is made public.

Is it sexist to say that women don’t negotiate as hard as men? My wife was offered a promotion with more responsibilities and they only offered her a 15% pay increase. She was happy with it. When I searched payscale and glassdoor i found that the position is technically a brand new position that should have netted her…

Just asking a question, so I’m not making any assumptions here. However, why don’t they ever take in account which gender tends to negotiate more or TRY for a higher salary? I just feel like some of these numbers could be potentially misleading without factors like that.