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    Jim
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    I think that free markets work themselves out. As you said, at some point, the price turns off consumers and they seek alternatives. Just before that price is what the market will bear. That sounds fair to me. If you are willing to pay $70, which you clearly are, isn’t that what the service is worth? I don’t

    Consider it done

    Yes. I’m still trying to understand how rolling back the 2015 regulations takes us back to 2005 and not 2015.

    what makes you think ISPs wouldn’t start carving up the internet and acting in anti-competitive ways?

    Taking a step back - has it been proven that even if ISPs did violate Net Neutrality principles, that it’d result in an overall worse experience for subscribers? We seem to accept that if these scenarios occurred, consumers would be worse off - but how do we know that? Markets are unpredictable, and free markets

    That’s what I was suspecting, but thought maybe there was some angle to this that I was completely missing.

    Do you think that the amount that would cancel would result in a net loss for the ISPs? If the average cost were $100/month, they’d just need to retain roughly 20% for it to be an appealing option for them (consider the reduction in overhead if you just had to service 20% of your customers - so 100 customers at $500

    But why not more? Internet costs aren’t outrageously higher than other utility bills or other bills that a person might have. I think most people agree that they feel “reasonable.” If the two above statements are true, then what stops ISPs from raising them to the point that the average customer feels that they are

    • How were those matters resolved?

    For the sake of argument, I’ll accept everything you just said, and add in that all ISPs care about is profit (a crucial point for Net Neutrality regulation to make sense). Given all of that:

    The government sure as shit cares more about you than Comcast does.

    Could someone answer a very specific question for me? How does rolling back the 2015 regulations also roll back/negate/block whatever laws/regulations/legal mechanism(s) were used in 2005 to stop the ISP in North Carolina from blocking Vonage?

    It could in 2014 and it didn’t. My proof is historical. What is yours?

    Ah yes I remember telling all my buddies about this newfangled Internet in 2014 and they looked at me like I was crazy! But look at them all now, just 3 years later, with their smartphones and Personal Computers.

    This issue isn’t new to iOS 11.1 or even iOS 11 as far as I know.

    I was simply explaining why I objected to making this a gender/sexism issue. You really ran with that and made a lot of assumptions about me. You’re telling me that I’m some kind of asshole know-it-all hellbent on enlightening people that gets upset when people disagree with me. But then here you are, mansplaining

    Yes it does, because it frames the issue as one with a specific gender, when that’s not the case. Being male is not a defining characteristic of someone who is exhibiting characteristics that would qualify them as a “mansplainer.”

    Yup. And when we point out the hypocrisy, they tell us to stop complaining because apparently life favors white guys. I don’t know. I see an awful lot of homeless white guys. Certainly a lot more than homeless women of any race.

    Did you miss the part of the word that contains man?

    Manspreading is another one. I ride the NYC subway all the time. I sit in crowded coffee shops all the time. Do you know what I see more often than men taking up too much space with their legs? Women taking up one or more seats with their bags. And yet there is no city-wide campaign against ladybagging. Both behaviors