That still sounds like excuses if you really wanted to advocate for saving the planet. Personal vehicles do make traveling more convenient for many types of people and their geographic area, but at the end of the day it is really just that, a convenience. I’d say if you are going to argue a point, dont stop halfway…

I find it funny that people as daft as you exist. The world’s climate changed dozens of times, hell explain the ice age?? We sure as heck didn’t have cars back then.

YES. Absolutely, public transport is more environmentally sound than electric cars. I myself use public transport all the time. But, you know, people love “freedom”. And many are lazy. And not everyone lives in a city. And we can’t build bus stops or tram stops or train stops or metro entrances outside every building,…

Wouldn’t it be even better to advocate for the elimination of POVs and get everyone onboard with mass public transportation. EVs are still vehicles so if your aim is to save the planet, I’d think cutting down on that among a whole host of other daily routines and activities would do so much more for that cause.

If this is true, you planned your trip ineffectively. Or you’re pretending that you never stop to eat or fuel when driving ICE. If you stay at places where you can charge overnight and plan to eat/pee/caffeinate during your charging stops BEV only adds maybe 10-15% on long road trips.

In reality, lithium mines aren’t particularly dirty, certainly not compared to say, uranium mining or the like (you can also recover lithium from seawater brine rather than mining it), and as for absolute environmental destruction, coal mining really takes the cake because not only is coal laced with all kinds of…

The fuck you talking about. There’s no credible evidence countering global warming, and the science is OVERWHELMINGLY settled, for YEARS now. You don’t know what you’re talking about, because you’re listening to lying propagandists who are lying to you.

Scientists that gets paid? Buddy, everybody gets paid, but scientists don’t get paid nearly as much as oil executives and coal barons do.

This is very common disinformation and FUD promoted and spread by the fossil fuel industry to discourage people from buying electric vehicles, and to just muddy up the waters in general.

The mental damage done by decades of Faux News brainwashing disinformation is certainly on display in any discussion as to the physics of CO2 effects in an atmosphere, isn’t it?

Absolutely not. Buddy. You have drank the koolaide. The science is not settled on this at all. If anything there is more evidence than ever pointing the opposite.

There aren’t clean ev only veg ikes and Evs are not ready for fleet services for emergency response.

Ironically, by Shell and Exxon’s own scientists who produced an excellent documentary on the subject

Exactly, hybrids are the sweet spot relative to our current tech and infrastructure.

...and embedded energy which is far greater than that of ICE vehicles at the moment. Hybrids are an excellent transition till full EVs make sense. Both posters have valid points, but the EV or die is a distraction from real progress across multiple industries. 

Nah...it's proven science for the scientist that gets paid.  We are heading in the right direction though.  It's just going to take time.  

Clean energy....hahahah....look up lithium and nickel mines. And how many trees need to be cut down for a solar farm. You need to do some research. It’s a step in the right direction but fully electric cars are far from clean. Just like the steam engine. When the tech is there, gas engines will naturally leave the…

The big aspect of electric vehicles that seems to usually not get talked about is this: what is the source of the electricity? Almost 60% of US electricity production comes from natural gas and coal, which are most definitely not green. I will grant you that a well maintained natural gas plant will run far more…

Its the guy that believes heat melting ice is merely an abstract concept

It’s literally proven science, and has been for seventy years.