Another commenter claims the A&E series (which I also didn’t watch) stated otherwise. Basically, they’re just all contradicting each other.

Seriously. A lot of people think Angie is crazy but I’ll take a Billy Bob Thornton’s blood around my neck over “9/11 happened because it was too expensive to demolish two buildings” any day of the week.

I appreciate that they keep showing that over and over because it gets funnier every time. He was shooing those women out like feral cats that had wandered onto his porch.

Do we really think that many people are voting these days, though? I feel like there are so many people on this show and the majority of the votes are probably going to the really excellent people, the people with big fan bases or the pro-dancers people like. The people who *don’t* get voted off the first weeks…

Thanks for summarizing it. I’m genuinely curious about every part of this case and, at the same time, never want to hear about it again!

This is why I’m not watching the show. Someone elsewhere gave me the “they proved it! Watch the show!” answer, but at this point I feel like I’ve watched the show enough and all the answers are different and everybody thinks they’ve solved the crime. I love true crime, but this one just seems like it was a mistake for…

Did this show try to explain the marks on her from the taser (or something taser like)? That’s always been something that really struck me as odd and disturbing. I’ve seen the theory about how they were from one of Burke’s train tracks, but that always sounded like bullshit and desperate grasping. The taser seems more…

If the family staged it then they seriously lucked out by the Boulder Police being such a bunch of incompetent nitwits. Was the first detective on the scene involved in any of these shows? Because I *still* remember seeing her crazy eyed interview about how she knew in her heart that John had done it and she kept…

Yeah, whether he did it or not, he’s so socially awkward that it’s hard to watch.

I loooooove that podcast. That’s why I DVR’d it, but I’m thinking about just passing on it and listening to what they have to say. I’m not really married to the “Burke did it” theory anyway and that above recap makes it seem super lame with all the “he might have done” and “maybe he did” crap. He killed her because…

I kind of wondered that, too, but after falling into the rabbit hole of some of the scientology links here, I think it was a completely different residence. That doesn’t mean he didn’t own it, though.

No worries.

I don’t think they prescribed the medication to her, I think they prescribed it to Carrey, under a fake name, who was sharing it with her because she was being kept from actual psychiatric care because of her membership in a cult. Which is all based on a lot of assumptions, but that’s what we’re doing right now.

I guess that kind of helps answer my any lingering questions I have about whether Jim Carey is involved in Scientology. If he was, they’d be protecting him hard right now.

Which would explain doctor shopping and providing meds under the table to his GF. I’ve never been super clear on whether or not Carey is involved with the cult, but I kind of doubt it. He just seems to hook up with women with questionable beliefs on the subject of medicine. I feel very sorry for this woman anyway, but…

I’m trying to figure out how that would help him manipulate her. Presumably the cameras weren’t a secret, so he wasn’t gathering information to use against her. So, how was that manipulative. Also, they were outside. If they were inside they would have no doubt noticed a problem much earlier.

And I’ll definitely give him the benefit of the doubt that he knew way more about what kind of dangers she might face than I do.

I think the problem people are having is that it was being monitored by Carey and his assistant and not a security team and that they were allegedly broken up at the time. I don’t have a problem with the camera in theory, but the fact that it was just being casually monitored by him instead of the security company…

These two didn’t seem especially functional, so I imagine they were broken up as much as they weren’t. I find the cameras pretty creepy too, but I doubt he installed them *after* they broke up and just because they were broken up that week doesn’t mean they would have been the next. These seem like two deeply…

I guess there’s the possibility that the dude who filed the law suit was an issue in some way. I mean, non-famous people have stalkers too. The cameras creep me out, but it could have been a normal thing for them.