Probably more like “be that as it may” or “whatever the reasons.”

She’s in her 80s ... I think her use of “whatever” was not in the dismissive tone you use it here.

Oh, look, more evidence of Amber’s abuse people won’t admit as legit because they think Gone Girl is the most common scenario in society, instead of an entitled angry addict becoming violent towards a woman. Now it makes sense why she was carrying her laptop while leaving her lawyer’s office. Wonder who will get the…

Wow. I didn’t even catch this gem the first time around this morning:

When I read the original post it, the director came across as the Prima Donna in the whole situation.

so you’ve moved to “what if women are sociopaths? have you thought about that, huh? i’m just saying, if women were sociopaths that would be really bad.”

Trashing a hotel room during a fight IS domestic violence. Physical violence includes breaking and throwing objects to intimidate someone. At the very, very least, it’s considered a precursor to or a warning sign of domestic violence, but during training for the DV shelter where I volunteer (not the one I link to…

A strongly worded response in a comments section isn’t the same as abusing a loved one. The elaborately-worded version of “go fuck yourself” was not a literal suggestion that you literally deserve to be raped with an object. You know that.

I certainly don’t think you need to one hundred percent believe her. Lying is one thing. It happens. It was that part about goading him into hitting her that struck a chord. It’s just a little too close to what abusers say.

Oh no, you’re the victim! Poor you! Don’t say things like “maybe she pushed him into it,” that reinforces the narrative that women are responsible for their own abuse. that’s not okay.

But... those weren’t the only two scenarios you posed. You said maybe she MADE HIM hit her. Around here, that kind of victim-blaming makes you lose all credibility.

But doesn’t the dude has a long history of violence?

He did some violent acting out in the 90s. I don't know that there were any allegations of abuse, but he had a pretty short fuse. His relationship with Kate Moss was pretty tempestuous - trashed hotel room, etc. Which doesn't make him an abuser, but I don't think it would really be new for him to exhibit violent…

“What did you do to provoke your husband into hitting you? Next time don’t antagonize him and maybe he’ll stop beating you up.”

There are rumors that she, at a minimum, enabled his return to hard drugs. It’s so cliche, but probably he was just itching to break out of domesticity and be young and wild again. And Amber tolerated it for her own reasons.

It's entirely possible that he never hit Vanessa and did hit Amber. It's also possible he didn't hit either one, but. Just, from personal experience, my dad was extremely abusive to his first two wives and has never raised a hand to the third one, in over 20 years. Sobriety being at least one factor. I find it weird…

“And who’s to say that she didn’t push him a little farther than usual to garner the reaction of a physical lash out?”

The fact that you think that commenters are taking up for it just because it has women in it and that if it is bad they wouldn't say anything because WOMEN, makes me think that maybe you aren't being truthful when you say you don't care if it has ladies in it.

False. Hollywood reboots movies that absolutely do not need them all the time (and most of the time the trailers for those projects look like shit too). I can’t think of a single reboot that has attracted anywhere NEAR the level of vitriol as the Ghostbusters reboot. There’s almost nothing different from Ghostbusters…