That's because 1-3 came out in the '80s. They were even before my time, and I'm old!

What is your game like? Anywhere I can go to look at it?

That's really sad.

That's how Bard's Tale 1-3 were, right? Same as how you describe Mars Saga? (That's about how Dragon Quest 2-9 work, too.)

Okay, I'm back with a better answer. Wasteland 2 has tactical turn-based combat, sort of like Fallout 1 and 2. Bard's Tale 3 (and I'm assuming 1 and 2) have fairly standard turn-based combat where you choose everyone's moves at the beginning, then it all gets carried out (like Dragon Quest). I'm assuming Wasteland…

I think Wasteland 2 is pretty standard turn-based fare, but I'm not familiar with the combat of the original Bard's Tale games (1-3). Guess I need to do some research!

Well, it's fair enough to think one is more fun than the other. Everyone's entitled to that. I agree the Torment thing is a little odd. I suppose they wanted to make it turn-based in the first place but never could? That's what the deal was with Divinity: OS, but of course that was announced as turn-based from the…

Most of these are way better than the actual one.

I was wondering about that. I think if it were done like Frozen Synapse, it would be massive chaos and not fun. I don't know what the combat was like in Bard's Tale 1-3, but I was assuming it was first-person and turn-based, similar to the first few Might and Magic games and Wizardy, for instance.

I hope you're right! I think that would be pretty darn fun and interesting. Of course there are games designed around the concept, like Frozen Synapse. I can't imagine that in an RPG, though. It would turn into massive chaos. I don't imagine that is what they'd be going for here though. I want to pledge! Come…

I think Neverwinter Nights 2 was the game that really killed RTwP for me, although I never liked it in Baldur's Gate either. It just felt like Warcraft 2 with RPG stuff thrown in, not D&D.

The only thing I wanted was Patapon 3, which costs $14.99 still but should cost about $4.99...

Me too! If it starts and I notice and remember, I'll come back here and reply.

Agreed but I hope they don't ruin the combat.

I thought it was pretty sub-par. The only thing that made it worthwhile was the corny humor, which didn't make it worthwhile enough for me.

Sounds great except for the combat system. So you pick all the actions and everything happens at once? Or is this just some new way of trotting out the old RTS combat and calling it "real-time with pause" that is so popular these days? (Cue at least one person who tries to argue with me, saying real-time with pause…

Can't wait for this!

I'll wait until it's on Steam for $20, then I'm in.

Windows 10? Did I miss something? What happened to Windows 9? My PC is still rocking 8, and all I use is the desktop mode.

I thought Nintendo lied and acted like they did that of their own volition.